tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post116973492676749462..comments2024-03-29T04:13:44.353-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: The Tar Sands From Spacebigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169829177507448752007-01-26T11:32:00.000-05:002007-01-26T11:32:00.000-05:00The other ones I've seen are like glazed versions ...The other ones I've seen are like glazed versions of ads you'd expect from the 50's-a manly voice saying "The oil industry-responsible, progressive, vital" or one where they talk about how much money the poor oil industry pays in taxes compared to the average Albertan. They leave out the parts about how royalties are only 1% and that they are all posting record profits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169820397327900942007-01-26T09:06:00.000-05:002007-01-26T09:06:00.000-05:00One of the spots even has an 8 year old girl sayin...<I>One of the spots even has an 8 year old girl saying "I am the oil and gas industry"!</I><BR/><BR/>Man. All money-sucking capitalists (or, more likely, their PR people) must be on all kinds of psychotropic medication these days to even venture that kind of twaddle.<BR/><BR/>Last time I said anything that gushy was when I was on morphine after an appendectomy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169784742327415392007-01-25T23:12:00.000-05:002007-01-25T23:12:00.000-05:00You ought to see all the Canadian Association of P...You ought to see all the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers propaganda that runs on the local TV stations every night. One of the spots even has an 8 year old girl saying "I am the oil and gas industry"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169775208170546312007-01-25T20:33:00.000-05:002007-01-25T20:33:00.000-05:00ti-guy: "I'm just enjoying the temporary calm, now...ti-guy: "I'm just enjoying the temporary calm, now that the deniers and paid shills have gone quiet. God, what a waste of time they were." <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, they seem to have migrated to the Globe and Mail discussions. Same old BS. I like the ones who accuse others of not being willing to look at all the facts, while forgetting to actually produce any facts. Actually I think they have learned not to produce references to Friends of Science or whatever, because then it is too easy to explode them. They just fall back on invective, and poor invective, at that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169770836853284732007-01-25T19:20:00.000-05:002007-01-25T19:20:00.000-05:00Notwithstanding any other point with which I may o...Notwithstanding any other point with which I may or may not disagree, somewhere around 1% of the Bow River volume is fed by the Bow Glacier. Sorry, I prefer facts to be correct.<BR/><BR/>http://geoscape.nrcan.gc.ca/h2o/bow/cycle_e.php<BR/><BR/>Recent water shortages have had more to do with construction of upgrades at Bearspaw WTP than anything else.<BR/><BR/>That is not to say that it is certainly possible that Calgary may have long term problems with water supply. I just prefer that bad information not be used as the basis of an argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169766099030294932007-01-25T18:01:00.000-05:002007-01-25T18:01:00.000-05:00Living in Calgary the past six years, I can tell y...Living in Calgary the past six years, I can tell you about the summertime water shortages (no watering or washing cars on odd days, etc.). The Bow Glacier (which feeds the Bow River) will be completely melted in less than 10 years. Perhaps then Albertans will "stand up for Canada" and start conserving. The oil industry is using up ALL of Alberta's fresh water - and doing it in the most wasteful ways possible. <BR/><BR/>Calgary will see nothing but water shortages and rationing in the future. It will be a crying shame to watch a city of one million located next to what used to be some of North America's largest glaciers, in the country containing the world's largest fresh water supply, having to pipeline/truck in water. Calgary will effectively die as a city within 20-25 years with the death of the oil industry, and the emergence of wind farms thriving on the high winds of global warming, and nuclear energy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169758131094661722007-01-25T15:48:00.000-05:002007-01-25T15:48:00.000-05:00The Fort MacMurray mayor and city council have ask...The Fort MacMurray mayor and city council have asked for an immediate moratorium on tar sands development. At the same time, Lunn is predicting a five-fold increase in tar sands production to help the Americans get off of Mideast oil and to help establish Canada as an energy super power.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry, though. Lunn says nuclear power will make the oil extraction viable and he thinks nuclear power is totally emission-free. <BR/>Jim ElveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169753485291080702007-01-25T14:31:00.000-05:002007-01-25T14:31:00.000-05:00I'm just enjoying the temporary calm, now that the...I'm just enjoying the temporary calm, now that the deniers and paid shills have gone quiet. God, what a waste of time they were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169749129394234492007-01-25T13:18:00.000-05:002007-01-25T13:18:00.000-05:00My parents are in Fort mac, and contrary to what C...My parents are in Fort mac, and contrary to what CPC bloggers tell you, people are not happy with it at all.<BR/><BR/>The stench of oil in the air is sickening. There are high incidences of rare cancers around the oil patch. People are stressed to the max, so much so that drug abuse is skyrocketing and families are breaking down. People are living in work camps. Rent is out of control, my parents had a $325 increase in their rent in just one month.<BR/><BR/>People need to ask themselves if it is worth selling their lives for a quick buck that gets lost in inflation. <BR/><BR/>Canadians in general need to think if they like the concept of Albert's uncontrolled growth stealing away their workers and pushing up their cost of living. The province is starting to act like an abusive partner.<BR/><BR/>Then their is Stevie Harper, "The man who sold the world", forcing consumers to reduce the drop in the bucket they produce in GHG should a 5 fold increase in oil sands production occur. If a two fold increase occured it would become the single biggest source of GHG in Canada at 70 megatonnes. Imagine a 5 fold increase is allowed to occur then their will be 175 megatonnes a year. <BR/><BR/>Baird and Harper keep saying how GHG increased by 30% under the liberals. Just look what will happen under the conservatives. We are talking triple the figure they keep ragging the liberals on.<BR/><BR/>Explain to me how Canada is going to be an energy superpoer when he is just referring to the oil patch in Northern Alberta. There is no Canada that picture. The other provinces will just be struggling with lack of workers and high inflation.<BR/><BR/>Some serious choices. Do we poison everyone for the sake of a few soulless multinationals?Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17404234601709022496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169742332129607062007-01-25T11:25:00.000-05:002007-01-25T11:25:00.000-05:00Maybe some Albertans have realized that the biosph...Maybe some Albertans have realized that the biosphere that they'll be living in will also make a nifty firewall...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169740755646912892007-01-25T10:59:00.000-05:002007-01-25T10:59:00.000-05:00Ac is right, the term he used was "urban snobs" (i...Ac is right, the term he used was "urban snobs" (in "The Man Sent to Kill The Issue"), and I should have realized that there are cities West of Ontario. I have rewritten that section to correct the error.<BR/><BR/>Nice of you to grace the site, AC. Your the first famous person to visit since the black guy that claimed to be Jesus.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169740295909549282007-01-25T10:51:00.000-05:002007-01-25T10:51:00.000-05:00So AC is saying BC is pre-var-i-ca-ting ?So AC is saying BC is pre-var-i-ca-ting ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169739880156670742007-01-25T10:44:00.000-05:002007-01-25T10:44:00.000-05:00I did a search. I have never used the phrase "East...I did a search. I have never used the phrase "Eastern snobs." Not that you should let that deter you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169738666131836722007-01-25T10:24:00.000-05:002007-01-25T10:24:00.000-05:00Actually, I know. I just like teasing Albertans. ...Actually, I know. I just like teasing Albertans. I also know that Fort Mac has some tough choices to make. Its tough being a boom town.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1169738393884064912007-01-25T10:19:00.000-05:002007-01-25T10:19:00.000-05:00Not everyone in Alberta is in love with how the Oi...Not everyone in Alberta is in love with how the Oilsands are being exploited. <BR/><BR/>It's sort of like the mantra about Alberta hating Ottawa - the real whining comes from a subset of the population.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com