tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post2083187850730939519..comments2024-03-28T00:54:34.206-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: Global Warming Deniers Deny Concept Of An Average Valuebigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-22712272282549711472007-09-11T14:11:00.000-04:002007-09-11T14:11:00.000-04:00Thanks to author! I like articles like this, very ...Thanks to author! I like articles like this, very interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-84190460046588754632007-09-10T11:36:00.000-04:002007-09-10T11:36:00.000-04:00I like it a lot! Nice site, I will bookmark!I like it a lot! Nice site, I will bookmark!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-57992742688015371212007-09-09T12:12:00.000-04:002007-09-09T12:12:00.000-04:00Well done. Keep up the great work. Best regards!Well done. Keep up the great work. Best regards!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-15690406226928719752007-09-06T03:37:00.000-04:002007-09-06T03:37:00.000-04:00Write something else. Thanks! Best Blog...Write something else. Thanks! Best Blog...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-84657461204693629802007-09-02T05:30:00.000-04:002007-09-02T05:30:00.000-04:00very good!very good!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-17289710741076326412007-08-26T01:52:00.000-04:002007-08-26T01:52:00.000-04:00I like articles like this. Thanks!I like articles like this. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-67892246752020572502007-08-17T13:54:00.000-04:002007-08-17T13:54:00.000-04:00Thanks for interesting article.Thanks for interesting article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-7399025725266799532007-08-15T11:34:00.000-04:002007-08-15T11:34:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-77069242856782804482007-08-15T10:49:00.000-04:002007-08-15T10:49:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-34497408980032972612007-08-13T11:48:00.000-04:002007-08-13T11:48:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-22543597068958564812007-08-02T06:49:00.000-04:002007-08-02T06:49:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-58536435458546444982007-07-29T10:13:00.000-04:002007-07-29T10:13:00.000-04:00Interesting! :-)Interesting! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-85089114000608509852007-03-21T11:35:00.000-04:002007-03-21T11:35:00.000-04:00What does it matter where the truth comes from? A...What does it matter where the truth comes from? Again, Liberals are projecting their own devious and deceitful ways onto the actions of others. Not everybody is a crook or a liar, which seem to be the only two possible motiviations understood in Liberal-world. <BR/><BR/>Just as Monckton is critiquing the Stern report as junk, other people are pointing out Gore's falsehoods, distortions, and outright lies for what they are. It doesn't take long to find out that polar bear populations are at an all-time high, compared to the 'endangered' label Al leads you to believe. AIT is a masterpiece of propaganda. But don't expect people to not expose it for what it is. <BR/><BR/>And stop calling me Shirley!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-43934246878889567512007-03-19T16:01:00.000-04:002007-03-19T16:01:00.000-04:00Anon 3:46,The Competitive Enterprise Institute? S...Anon 3:46,<BR/><BR/>The Competitive Enterprise Institute? Surely you jest.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-41236780446977807872007-03-19T14:46:00.000-04:002007-03-19T14:46:00.000-04:00More holes shot into Al Bore's mythology. http://w...More holes shot into Al Bore's mythology. <BR/><BR/>http://www.cei.org/pdf/5820.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-51466739856700577762007-03-17T18:51:00.000-04:002007-03-17T18:51:00.000-04:00Goere won't do it . . . he's a coward as well as ...Goere won't do it . . . he's a coward as well as a liar.<BR/><BR/>Al Gore Challenged to International TV Debate on Global Warming<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>March 16, 2007<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>PERTH, SCOTLAND - In a formal invitation sent to former Vice-President Al Gore’s Tennessee address and released to the public, Lord Monckton has thrown down the gauntlet to challenge Gore to what he terms “the Second Great Debate,” an internationally televised, head-to-head, nation-unto-nation confrontation on the question, “That our effect on climate is not dangerous.” (http://ff.org/centers/csspp/docs/20070316_monckton.html)<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Monckton a former policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher during her years as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom said, “A careful study of the substantial corpus of peer-reviewed science reveals that Mr. Gore’s film, An Inconvenient Truth, is a foofaraw of pseudo-science, exaggerations, and errors, now being peddled to innocent schoolchildren worldwide.” <BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Monckton and Gore have once before clashed head to head on the science, politics, and religion of global warming in the usually-decorous pages of the London Sunday Telegraph last November.<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Monckton calls on the former Vice President to “step up to the plate and defend his advocacy of policies that could do grave harm to the welfare of the world’s poor. If Mr. Gore really believes global warming is the defining issue of our time, the greatest threat human civilization has ever faced, then he should welcome the opportunity to raise the profile of the issue before a worldwide audience of billions by defining and defending his claims against a serious, science-based challenge”.<BR/><BR/>File written by Adobe Photoshop® 4.0<BR/><BR/>The arena of the glittering “Second Great Debate” will be the elegant, Victorian-Gothic Library of the Oxford Museum of Natural History, which was the setting for the “Great Debate” between the natural scientist T. H. Huxley and Bishop “Soapy Sam” Wilberforce on the theory of evolution, following the publication of Darwin’s Origin of Species. Lord Monckton says he chose this historic venue “not only because the magnificent, Gothic architecture will be a visually-stunning setting for the debate but also because I hope that in this lofty atmosphere the caution and scepticism of true science will once again prevail, this time over the shibboleths and nostrums of the false, new religion of climate alarmism.”<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Lord Monckton’s resounding challenge to Al Gore reads as follows –<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>“The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley presents his compliments to Vice-President Albert Gore and by these presents challenges the said former Vice-President to a head-to-head, internationally-televised debate upon the question “That our effect on climate is not dangerous”, to be held in the Library of the Oxford University Museum of Natural History at a date of the Vice-President’s choosing.<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>“Forasmuch as it is His Lordship who now flings down the gauntlet to the Vice-President, it shall be the Vice-President’s prerogative and right to choose his weapons by specifying the form of the Great Debate. May the Truth win! Magna est veritas, et praevalet. God Bless America! God Save the Queen!”<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Contact: Audrey Mullen<BR/><BR/> www.advocacyink.com 703-548-1160Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-23098390158535279732007-03-17T14:37:00.000-04:002007-03-17T14:37:00.000-04:00Why are we supposed to weep over the IQ2 debate? I...Why are we supposed to weep over the IQ2 debate? I'm looking forward to hearing it when it comes out on NPR.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-13820191561993060302007-03-17T12:22:00.000-04:002007-03-17T12:22:00.000-04:00Anon 1:12,An online poll? SUrely you jest.Anon 1:12,<BR/><BR/>An online poll? SUrely you jest.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-37667876716919271442007-03-17T12:12:00.000-04:002007-03-17T12:12:00.000-04:00read 'em & weep suckahs THE INTELLIGENCE SQUARED D...read 'em & weep suckahs <BR/><BR/>THE INTELLIGENCE SQUARED DEBATE: "GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT A CRISIS"<BR/><BR/>Center for Science and Public Policy, 16 March 2007<BR/>http://ff.org/centers/csspp/pdf/20070316_notcrisis.pdf<BR/><BR/>Motion: Global warming is not a crisis<BR/><BR/>Wednesday, March 14, 2007<BR/><BR/>MODERATOR:<BR/>Brian Lehrer is host of the highly-acclaimed "Brian Lehrer Show" heard weekday<BR/>mornings on WNYC® New York Public Radio®, 820 AM, 93.9 FM<BR/>and wnyc.org. He is also an award-winning author and documentary producer.<BR/>Lehrer holds masters degrees in journalism and public health/environmental<BR/>sciences.<BR/><BR/>SPEAKERS FOR THE MOTION:<BR/><BR/>* Michael Crichton is a writer and filmmaker, best known as the author of<BR/>JurassicPark and the creator of "ER." Crichton graduated summa cum laude from<BR/>Harvard College, received his MD from Harvard Medical School, and was a<BR/>postdoctoral fellow at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies. He has been a<BR/>visiting instructor at Cambridge University and MIT. Crichton's 2004 bestseller,<BR/>State of Fear, challenged extreme anthropogenic warming scenarios.<BR/><BR/>* Richard S. Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at<BR/>MIT since 1983, previously held professorships at Harvard, where he received his<BR/>A.B., S.M. and Ph.D., and the University of Chicago. He is a member of the<BR/>National Academy of Sciences and the recipient of various awards. He is the<BR/>author or co-author of three books and over 200 papers. His current research is<BR/>on climate sensitivity, atmospheric convection and the general circulation of<BR/>the atmosphere.<BR/><BR/>* Philip Stott is an Emeritus Professor and biogeographer from the University of<BR/>London, UK. Although a scientist, for the past ten years he has also<BR/>employed modern techniques of deconstruction to grand environmental narratives,<BR/>like "global warming." Stott was editor of the internationally important Journal<BR/>of Biogeography for 18 years. He broadcasts widely on TV and radio, and writes<BR/>regularly on environmental issues for The Times of London , among other<BR/>publications.<BR/><BR/>SPEAKERS AGAINST THE MOTION:<BR/><BR/>* Brenda Ekwurzel works on the national climate program at the Union of<BR/>Concerned Scientists (UCS). Prior to joining UCS, she was on the faculty of<BR/>the University of Arizona. Doctorate research was at Lamont-Doherty Earth<BR/>Observatory of Columbia University and post-doctoral research at Lawrence<BR/>Livermore National Laboratory in California.<BR/><BR/>* Gavin Schmidt is a climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space<BR/>Studies in New York. His publications include studies of past, present and<BR/>potential future climates. Scientific American cited him as a top 50 Research<BR/>Leader in 2004, and he has worked on education and outreach with the<BR/>American Museum of Natural History, the College de France and the New York<BR/>Academy of Sciences, among others. He is a contributing editor at<BR/>RealClimate.org.<BR/><BR/>* Richard C.J. Somerville is Distinguished Professor at Scripps Institution of<BR/>Oceanography, University of California, San Diego. He is a theoretical<BR/>meteorologist and an expert on computer simulations of the atmosphere. Among<BR/>many honors, Somerville is a Fellow of both the American Association for the<BR/>Advancement of Science and the American Meteorological Society. He has received<BR/>awards for both his research and his popular book, The Forgiving Air:<BR/>Understanding Environmental Change.<BR/><BR/>*****<BR/><BR/>Poll results of a sold out audience before and after, and online poll after on<BR/>topic:<BR/><BR/>Global Warming is NOT a crisis. <BR/><BR/> Before After OnlinePoll<BR/><BR/>For: 29.88 46.22 54.76<BR/>Against: 57.32 42.22 41.94<BR/>Don't Know 12.8 11.56 3.30<BR/><BR/><BR/>FULL TRANSCRIPT OF THE DEBATE at<BR/>http://ff.org/centers/csspp/pdf/20070316_notcrisis.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-71493262145428391822007-03-17T11:43:00.000-04:002007-03-17T11:43:00.000-04:00how much of the atmosphere do they actually measur...how much of the atmosphere do they actually measure ??<BR/><BR/>What is the average speed of a hurricane ? <BR/><BR/>Of an avalanche ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-76525548584300099032007-03-17T10:23:00.000-04:002007-03-17T10:23:00.000-04:00The numbers - collected from measuring stations - ...The numbers - collected from measuring stations - are used to indicate whether the atmosphere has more or less energy in it over time. <BR/><BR/>higher temperature readings => more energy in the atmosphere ***<BR/><BR/>and visa versa<BR/><BR/>more energy in the atmosphere => higher temperature readings***<BR/><BR/>***Wind conditions, content of the atmosphere etc., and thermodynamic laws being part of the calculation.<BR/> <BR/>The total energy (in flux as it is) still equates to an average temperature for the mass of the atmosphere. <BR/><BR/>A representative temperature consistently calculated over time for the total energy in the atmosphere is a valid summary number.Walks With Coffeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019579871194377605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-75619454184217862472007-03-17T10:12:00.000-04:002007-03-17T10:12:00.000-04:00For Big City LIb,Very cute and astute post - gave ...For Big City LIb,<BR/><BR/>Very cute and astute post - gave me a smile this morning. Thanks!<BR/><BR/>For the denier reaction - not denile (valid points but urging caution on determining the outcome isn't denying). But for the above anonymous:<BR/><BR/>Um, yeah, right. I know the sun is pretty complex too but I'll bet the average temparature is a heck of a lot hotter than my coffee this morning. Did you write the original article?<BR/><BR/>Have fun saling that river mentioned in the first comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-73187868721423201292007-03-17T09:43:00.000-04:002007-03-17T09:43:00.000-04:00they are correct actually.The atmosphere is a very...they are correct actually.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The atmosphere is a very chaotic complex system that defies specific measures such as a statistical average. You can't run regression analysis on the data - it is too complex & chaotic.<BR/><BR/>The real estate analogy is not a safe comparison as that market is not chaotic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-63568376924067384762007-03-17T08:28:00.000-04:002007-03-17T08:28:00.000-04:00Some man-made GW proponents starting to back away ...Some man-made GW proponents starting to back away - just a little:<BR/><BR/>"Two leading UK climate researchers have criticised those among their peers who they say are "overplaying" the global warming message.<BR/><BR/>Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier, both Royal Meteorological Society figures, are voicing their concern at a conference in Oxford.<BR/><BR/>They say some researchers make claims about possible future impacts that cannot be justified by the science.<BR/><BR/>The pair believe this damages the credibility of all climate scientists.<BR/><BR/>They think catastrophism and the "Hollywoodisation" of weather and climate only work to create confusion in the public mind.<BR/><BR/>They argue for a more sober and reasoned explanation of the uncertainties about possible future changes in the Earth's climate." - news.bbc.co.ukAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com