tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post2723695072695930177..comments2024-03-28T00:54:34.206-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: BETRAYED! Final Notes On The Speechy Conflictbigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-28439215205707289482009-01-13T06:44:00.000-05:002009-01-13T06:44:00.000-05:00"Give Harper a majority, and I think you could exp..."Give Harper a majority, and I think you could expect to see a lot of civil liberties and rights rolled back to the 1950s - starting with GLBT rights."<BR/><BR/>So... if I understand you right, shoring up free speech rights would be a rolling back of civil liberties? And yet Canada's Civil Liberties Associations want Section 13 abolished. Maybe they're Nazis too...<BR/><BR/>The simple, yet radical message of classical liberalism is the most ideal and beautiful political message that mankind has ever articulated. It is far more revolutionary and intelligent than anything you guys (and in you guys, I include Stephen Harper) could come up with...<BR/><BR/>Deep within human nature is the desire for basic liberty. Don't count on this debate being over. Not even in the short term... Just because our idiot of a PM doesn't care about freedom doesn't mean that freedom is dead.Jeremy Maddockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117147619197833741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-86545212568678198642009-01-12T01:55:00.000-05:002009-01-12T01:55:00.000-05:00"Section 13 is and always has been used against ou..."Section 13 is and always has been used against out-and-out Nazis."<BR/><BR/>Do Christian pastors count?<BR/><BR/>We certainly know Muslim Imams don't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-50149064148721504482009-01-10T23:20:00.000-05:002009-01-10T23:20:00.000-05:00Whatever you think of Margaret Atwood's views, peo...Whatever you think of Margaret Atwood's views, people will still be reading her books after the rest of us are gone and no one remembers the controversies that we currently think are so important.<BR/><BR/>And people think it's only Tories who systematically denigrate our country's artists.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185035446536705221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-72153740644515222112009-01-10T12:57:00.000-05:002009-01-10T12:57:00.000-05:00Um, Steyn and Levant weren't CHRC cases Paul. DO t...Um, Steyn and Levant weren't CHRC cases Paul. DO try to keep up.<BR/><BR/>Section 13 is and always has been used against out-and-out Nazis.<BR/><BR/>The real question is why Steyn and Levant love Nazis so much they'll pretend they're martyrs. Try as I might, I can't come up with a single explanation that doesn't boil down to them being the absolute scum of the earth. Groups like the ACLU have defended the free speech of Nazis for years without ever pretending they were in any way admirable. This is somehow beyond the ability of Levant.<BR/><BR/>Disgusting piece of shit that he is.Reality Biteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350104223630062677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-3237593203288141572009-01-10T02:44:00.000-05:002009-01-10T02:44:00.000-05:00You're graceless in defeat, Paulie.You're graceless in defeat, Paulie.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-53659029795505727292009-01-10T00:14:00.000-05:002009-01-10T00:14:00.000-05:00Who's afraid of Section 13? Nobody. The cases agai...Who's afraid of Section 13? Nobody. <BR/><BR/>The cases against Steyn and Levant collapsed because the left conspired to suppress normal political discourse.<BR/><BR/>Keeping Section 13 on the books is a pyrrhic victory. The left is welcome to it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00640844117742326726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-86799475343032980432009-01-09T13:30:00.000-05:002009-01-09T13:30:00.000-05:00No kidding. It's not like the bulk of Harpy's sup...No kidding. It's not like the bulk of Harpy's supporters are suddenly going to become reasnnable and sensible.<BR/><BR/>The speechy war really was a manifestation of just how singularly ignorant the Right has become, most specifically its so-called "intelligentisia." In every instance of these cases, I could have written what Steyn and the rest did while quite easily avoiding charges of hate speech.<BR/><BR/>The only argument left was that expression of hate itself is legitimate (with which I do agree), but they just don't know how to do that. It's easy to hate putrid or nonsensical ideas and hate the named individuals who advance them but wingnut intellectual sloth (very much rooted in xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry and outright racism...with a few instances of genuine mental health problems...Levant, Shaidle...thrown in for good measure) can't be overcome enough to articulate what it is they hate more carefully, more compellingly and more convincingly.<BR/><BR/>If Harper's disappointed them, they only have themselves to blame.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-72653542633677922362009-01-09T13:10:00.000-05:002009-01-09T13:10:00.000-05:00Don't bank on it being over. Give Harper a majori...Don't bank on it being over. Give Harper a majority, and I think you could expect to see a lot of civil liberties and rights rolled back to the 1950s - starting with GLBT rights.MgShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183962674882855323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-69429398323465322512009-01-09T12:05:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:05:00.000-05:00Jenny Craig...eat your heart out!Jenny Craig...eat your heart out!Harry Abramshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14564085841438463296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-26960698753227805842009-01-09T11:04:00.000-05:002009-01-09T11:04:00.000-05:00I love how Chris Silly asserts that both (all) sid...I love how Chris Silly asserts that both (all) sides in this were the same. It's exactly that lack of nuance which prevented me from treating the speechy arguments seriously. As a matter of principle, I just never take the side of stupid, angry, dishonest people.<BR/><BR/>Blazingcatsass in unconsolable. Maybe you should send him/it a basket of mini-muffins.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.com