tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post338779265977184681..comments2024-03-17T03:16:44.995-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: No Federal Election In 2008bigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-59025168543187305062008-01-09T21:44:00.000-05:002008-01-09T21:44:00.000-05:00Knock it off, sock-puppets. I work alone.Knock it off, sock-puppets. I work alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-90366163344410109852008-01-09T20:49:00.000-05:002008-01-09T20:49:00.000-05:00Liberal and worried:You're right to be worried. D...Liberal and worried:<BR/><BR/>You're right to be worried. Dion is no longer a rookie, but he's clearly not growing on the job. As for advisors, you can't expect them to be ventriloquists which is pretty well what Dion needs. <BR/><BR/>We pretty well have to pray that Harper screws up, as lame as that sounds. But that's about all we've got.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-87066602328962886742008-01-09T20:31:00.000-05:002008-01-09T20:31:00.000-05:00I can't beleive that Dion said that today. Does h...I can't beleive that Dion said that today. Does he have nobody advising him? It makes him look like a yellow-bellied coward and a dunce to boot. This truly is a depressing start to the New Year.<BR/><BR/>Andrew please stick to the topic on the thread and spare us your digressions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-73624471906424263132008-01-09T20:24:00.000-05:002008-01-09T20:24:00.000-05:00From a CTV news report updated at 7:30 today:"Libe...From a CTV news report updated at 7:30 today:<BR/><BR/>"Liberal Leader Stephane Dion seemed markedly less eager Wednesday to force a quick election than he was only a month ago. <BR/><BR/><BR/>He said his party doesn't intend to try to introduce a confidence vote before the next budget in February or March. <BR/><BR/><BR/>"I have no plan to do so for now,'' he said. <BR/><BR/><BR/>And he repeatedly refused to "speculate'' on whether the Liberals will bring down the government over the budget, saying he'll wait to evaluate its contents. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Dion's non-committal responses were in stark contrast to his apparent eagerness in December for an election early in 2008. At that time, he appeared to be setting the stage for a winter or spring election, warning that Liberals, who abstained on confidence matters throughout the fall, would not continue to prop up the government for much longer. <BR/><BR/><BR/>"2008 will be another ball game,'' he said then. "You cannot keep alive forever a government who wants to die.''"<BR/><BR/>2008, same old bravado followed by weasly backtracking, all spoken with his usual incoherent english.<BR/><BR/>Look you guys, would someone get a putsch going a.s.a.p., I mean I vote Conservative but I like a fair fight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-61551309710057819262008-01-09T19:56:00.000-05:002008-01-09T19:56:00.000-05:00...the poll says what it says. 30%, what the Liber...<I>...the poll says what it says. 30%, what the Liberals got last election, has basically been their ceiling since then.</I><BR/><BR/>They've polled higher very recently.<BR/><BR/><I>They've polled down to 26-28 and as low as 22 in one.</I><BR/><BR/>Is that the poll that's vying for space with the butt-plug in your colon?<BR/><BR/><I>ti-guy another.</I><BR/><BR/>What explanation did I venture?<BR/><BR/>You're such a Tory-Tard, Andrew-Biff. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie and lie.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-7612147002167717592008-01-09T19:36:00.000-05:002008-01-09T19:36:00.000-05:00Look guys, don't shoot the messenger, the poll say...Look guys, don't shoot the messenger, the poll says what it says. 30%, what the Liberals got last election, has basically been their ceiling since then. They've polled down to 26-28 and as low as 22 in one.<BR/><BR/>BCL has one explanation, ti-guy another. But let's not kid ourselves, Dion is keeping the Liberals mired by making himself the issue. His leaderhip credibility is like a millstone around the Liberal party's neck.<BR/><BR/>And with poll numbers like the one that came out today, does anyone really think that that will help Dion grow a spine? Methinks he'll be sitting on his hands for quite some time. He'll keep drawing and re-drawing lines in the sand until no one, not a one, will be listening to what he has to say, except for his dog Kyoto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-35849930336064026542008-01-09T19:14:00.000-05:002008-01-09T19:14:00.000-05:00Doesn't Andrew-Biff do this every time the Tories ...Doesn't Andrew-Biff do this every time the Tories are up in *a* poll?<BR/><BR/>I'm surprised he didnt' type "polling in majority territory," but maybe the new butt-plug is causing him to be distracted.<BR/><BR/>I did an informal poll of two typical Conservatives I know...neither one had heard of the CNSC/AECL issue (one of them didn't even know either body existed).<BR/><BR/>...there's your Tory lead right there.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-28803148402704430042008-01-09T19:06:00.000-05:002008-01-09T19:06:00.000-05:00Andrew,Yeah, people like the Tories better when th...Andrew,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, people like the Tories better when they go away for a month.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-8015748482778650332008-01-09T19:03:00.000-05:002008-01-09T19:03:00.000-05:00Conservatives 37 Liberals 30.Dion is really catchi...Conservatives 37 Liberals 30.<BR/><BR/>Dion is really catching fire. Not.<BR/><BR/>That Mulroney- Schreiber thing is really is affecting the government. Not.<BR/><BR/>The Liberals are par with the Tories. Not.(Nobody beleived that, even the Liberal operatives.)<BR/><BR/>Do you think that yellow-bellied Dion is going to take the government down? Do pigs flyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-41496055840426467132008-01-09T18:54:00.000-05:002008-01-09T18:54:00.000-05:00Great comment, Biff!Great comment, Biff!Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-88510788933628823302008-01-09T18:30:00.000-05:002008-01-09T18:30:00.000-05:00Hi BCL,More Quebec-bashing from BCL and the Libera...Hi BCL,<BR/><BR/>More Quebec-bashing from BCL and the Liberal party of Canada, this is becoming a regular feature.<BR/><BR/>Oh and polls. Decima poll just came out today Jan 3-6:<BR/><BR/>Conservatives 37<BR/><BR/>Liberals 30<BR/><BR/>Like that political genius ti-guy says : Bring down the government as soon as possible. I remind you folks, that that is a Decima poll. (The Tories are probably close to 40.)<BR/><BR/>Come on you guys, we all know Dion does not have the balls to do that.<BR/><BR/>His preferred course is all talk, no action and dithering about what should be his next priority which he says is not easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-50673237032791254242008-01-09T17:00:00.000-05:002008-01-09T17:00:00.000-05:00anon 5:50 :It was the liberals that sent the troop...anon 5:50 :<BR/><BR/>It was the liberals that sent the troops over there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-67641386912134262072008-01-09T16:37:00.000-05:002008-01-09T16:37:00.000-05:00"Actually, anon 1:28, the Libs just said today tha..."Actually, anon 1:28, the Libs just said today that the military mission should end in 09. I've linked in the main post."<BR/><BR/>The Liberal position is based entirely on the premise that if we tell NATO we're leaving someone will step up and move in. If that happens, good. What if that doesn't happen? Are they going to leave Kandahar? Are they going to order Canadian troops to stay on the base and let the people fend for themselves while the troops train everyone? What exactly does the proposal for our military to "protect Afghan civilians" mean? Are they simply going to patrol or is it another word for counter-insurgency?<BR/><BR/>From the article you linked to, the Liberal proposal seems like it is worded so both the hawks and doves in the party can be happy with it. It doesn't seem worded to force an election. If anything, it would seem to be worded to avoid one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-42877778777182271942008-01-09T16:12:00.000-05:002008-01-09T16:12:00.000-05:00Remember Gille's Duceppe's stirring words last Mar...<I>Remember Gille's Duceppe's stirring words last March:<BR/><BR/>We will support this budget because it gives more money to Quebec in equalization payments.</I><BR/><BR/>Politicians don't talk like this, so I checked the article to see if he actually said that. Sure enough, he didn't, the Star did:<BR/><I><BR/>Thanks to the support of the Bloc Québécois, Harper's Conservative minority will likely survive a confidence vote, even though the Liberals and the New Democrats oppose the Tories' second budget.<BR/><BR/>"We will support this budget" because it gives more money to Quebec in equalization payments, Bloc leader Gilles Duceppe told reporters. </I><BR/><BR/>Note quotation marks. <BR/><BR/>Bad BCL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-6337807075767104762008-01-09T14:19:00.000-05:002008-01-09T14:19:00.000-05:00Jesus, I thought that obnoxious troll Wilson had d...Jesus, I thought that obnoxious troll Wilson had died or something.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-79083406235238316492008-01-09T12:45:00.000-05:002008-01-09T12:45:00.000-05:00Liberals stayed in power by dividing regions and g...Liberals stayed in power by dividing regions and groups, creating problems needing fixing.<BR/><BR/>Libs kept the separtists alive so as to keep putting out the fire.<BR/><BR/>PMSH has united the country.<BR/><BR/>Libs had women believing that PMSH would 'take away their rights'. That didn't happen, in fact, Cons are fighting for Native women's rights and it is the Libs that are opposing.<BR/><BR/>Women now see that it is Conservatives who support ALL women, and don't pick fights with select womens groups, <BR/>as the Libs do.<BR/><BR/>No wonder Libs are desperately trying to hang on to the women's vote.<BR/>Oct 2007 poll showed that Libs only attract 24% of the decided male vote, <BR/>and they have no divisive issue to scare women with, so as to keep women voting for them.<BR/><BR/>Poverty, Afghanistan and Global Warming are not women's issues.<BR/><BR/>In keeping with Liberal ways, I predict Lib platform:<BR/><BR/>Enviro file will hit Alberta (and it's easy money) and farmers hard, <BR/>and insulate Ontario and Quebec and Maritimes from the hit.<BR/><BR/>Poverty file will support urban dwellers and ignore rural areas (because their is no poverty in rural areas)<BR/><BR/>Divide the nation into east vs west, and rural vs urban.<BR/>That is the Liberal way.<BR/>Un-unite the country.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-12423668815116320572008-01-09T12:33:00.000-05:002008-01-09T12:33:00.000-05:00Actually, anon 1:28, the Libs just said today that...Actually, anon 1:28, the Libs just said today that the military mission should end in 09. I've linked in the main post.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-61932868757037812782008-01-09T12:28:00.000-05:002008-01-09T12:28:00.000-05:00The fact that no one is bringing up Afghanistan as...The fact that no one is bringing up Afghanistan as a flash point means one of the two sides is perparing to cave. Given that anyone who supports extending the mission has only one party to vote for it seems more likely that the Liberals will cave and citing that it is not fair to abandon the people of Kandahar because Harper was unable to find another country to rotate in. <BR/><BR/>What do the Liberals possibly have to gain in fighting an election over Afghanistan when Layton is demanding the troops home now, Harper advocates staying the course and their position is some hypothetical about a non-combat reconstruction role? If the election is about Afghanistan, they will need to clarify their deliberately vague position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-71513340262555827002008-01-09T11:10:00.000-05:002008-01-09T11:10:00.000-05:00Will do, Biff.Will do, Biff.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-65915860938062736112008-01-09T10:24:00.000-05:002008-01-09T10:24:00.000-05:00ti-guy, don't forget they're also mean, unfair, pr...ti-guy, don't forget they're also mean, unfair, prejudiced, evangelical neocon warmongering deniers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-12247384267613895192008-01-09T09:16:00.000-05:002008-01-09T09:16:00.000-05:00This government's just going to get worse; the on...This government's just going to get worse; the only answers they for anything are blame and deflection. They're also stupid on the issues I thought they'd be pretty good at...fiscal probity and accountability.<BR/><BR/>I shudder to think how they'd handle a real crisis, especially one they couldn't blame on anyone else. I imagine many instances of loss of bowel control and many "deer caught in the headlights of an oncoming car" stares from the these frat boys, titsy ditzes, doughy pantloads, used-car salesmen, oleaginous courtiers and rednecks.<BR/><BR/>Bring down the government as soon as possible.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-5221678011438442992008-01-09T08:55:00.000-05:002008-01-09T08:55:00.000-05:00There is a set election date, why don't we just wa...There is a set election date, why don't we just wait until then.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03314603669176202647noreply@blogger.com