tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post4924173029424470351..comments2024-03-29T04:13:44.353-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: One Mom Good, Two Moms Better: Did Stephen Harper Suppress Politically Incorrect Research?bigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-25781417567208891012007-05-07T18:45:00.000-04:002007-05-07T18:45:00.000-04:00Oh, shut up.Oh, shut up.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-14885221434349830212007-05-07T16:31:00.000-04:002007-05-07T16:31:00.000-04:00This is the world the PC crowd would envision. Ch...This is the world the PC crowd would envision. Children being raised by ONLY same-sex couples. That way all those horrible conservative genes and tendencies could be bred out of people, and all that would be left are children who grow up to be tolerant, peaceful, sharing, caring, feeling, emotive, empowered, happy super people. Because conservatives are all mean, ugly, vicious, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, mean, spiteful, uncaring, selfing, mean, and just so stupid. And there'd be no criminals either, because every child would be loved. It's too bad none of them would be working.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-63922542514128370032007-05-07T15:02:00.000-04:002007-05-07T15:02:00.000-04:00Or is it saying that two dads are the worst possib...Or is it saying that two dads are the worst possible combination? Who needs fathers, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-20655533196355709122007-05-07T14:42:00.000-04:002007-05-07T14:42:00.000-04:00Fascinating. The Liberals sat on a number of inter...<I>Fascinating. The Liberals sat on a number of internal gov't reports on the failings of all of our gun control laws, and they only saw the light of day through FOI requests. Strange they weren't so forthcoming themselves.</I><BR/><BR/>Which reports were those? Don't make yourself out to be a liar, now. That would shock me.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-54931929451416250472007-05-07T14:32:00.000-04:002007-05-07T14:32:00.000-04:00Fascinating. The Liberals sat on a number of inte...Fascinating. The Liberals sat on a number of internal gov't reports on the failings of all of our gun control laws, and they only saw the light of day through FOI requests. Strange they weren't so forthcoming themselves. <BR/><BR/>But I guess because Liberals are perfect, they're allowed to do that, and the media gives them a free pass. And you're right; the media COMPLETELY missed reporting on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-38119149678666807562007-05-07T14:31:00.000-04:002007-05-07T14:31:00.000-04:00'Scientific research' - lol, lol...'Scientific research' - lol, lol...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-49089731015269361362007-05-07T13:43:00.000-04:002007-05-07T13:43:00.000-04:00I can debunk that study thusly: being raised by a ...I can debunk that study thusly: being raised by a same-sex couple is disadvantageous for the child because rightwing bigots will abuse and taunt them. Won't somebody please think of the children!!!<BR/><BR/>It was the same rationale used to support miscegenation laws in the past.<BR/><BR/>Why should <I>anyone</I> be surprised that the Conservatives have suppressed information? They've been doing that since day one. What puzzles me is how poorly the media have been in investigating these things on its own.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-59371640983707547732007-05-07T13:07:00.000-04:002007-05-07T13:07:00.000-04:00Inconveient truths popping out everywhere for the ...Inconveient truths popping out everywhere for the CPC's these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-28840751668624509572007-05-07T12:57:00.000-04:002007-05-07T12:57:00.000-04:00Thanks. That clears up my timeline questions.Thanks. That clears up my timeline questions.JimBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603665575714484326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-32244355206569939382007-05-07T12:51:00.000-04:002007-05-07T12:51:00.000-04:00From Paul Hastings himself:To be honest, I don't k...From Paul Hastings himself:<BR/><BR/>To be honest, I don't know for certain that any government was <BR/>'sitting'<BR/>on the report. I indicated to Mr. Aubrey that to suggest the report <BR/>was<BR/>covered up would be speculation. <BR/><BR/>However, the time-line of events <BR/>would<BR/>suggest that, if a Justice Minister was choosing not to release the<BR/>report, it is more likely that this occured under the Conservative<BR/>government.<BR/><BR/>The report was commissioned and completed under the previous Liberal<BR/>government. It took a few months for the French translation of the <BR/>report<BR/>to be prepared. My co-authors and I reviewed and made corrections to <BR/>the<BR/>translation, and returned those to the Department of Justice. The<BR/>election occured between the DoJ receiving those corrections and their<BR/>type-setters finalizing the format of the report in both official<BR/>languages. I was then informed that the final reports were ready to be<BR/>posted on the DoJ website, and that they were awaiting word for a <BR/>formal<BR/>release date to be approved by then-Justice Minister Vic Toews. After<BR/>several months of asking when the release date would be issues, I <BR/>finally<BR/>decided to file an access to information request. That was processed<BR/>quite promptly, and I received a paper copy of the report in less than <BR/>2bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-15230522293608501452007-05-07T12:32:00.000-04:002007-05-07T12:32:00.000-04:00I just find it strange that a study on a topical i...I just find it strange that a study on a topical issue commissioned in 2003 would not be completed until after 2 election cycles. <BR/><BR/>FWIW, when I saw that the guy was slamming the Cons but not the Grits, it only put an idea into my head that the guy was commissioned by the Libs and was likely a Lib and that was why he only went after the cons. That, and the fact that they are the ones to whom the A to I request had to be made.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't surprise me that the Cons would want to keep this secret. It really surprises me to think that the report wasn't submitted until after Harper took over.<BR/><BR/>JBJimBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603665575714484326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-36714266784419816542007-05-07T11:58:00.000-04:002007-05-07T11:58:00.000-04:00In the origonal article, there are also some mater...In the origonal article, there are also some material suggesting that the Tories "distanced" themselves from the report. So at the very least they continued to sit on it. Also, scotian is right you think the author would know about scheduled publication dates.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-33953305379795990442007-05-07T11:54:00.000-04:002007-05-07T11:54:00.000-04:00JB:You raise an interesting question as to timing,...JB:<BR/><BR/>You raise an interesting question as to timing, so I went and re-read the article to see if one could deduce anything from it on that score. While there is no direct reference to when the report was submitted, I would think that the original author would know when he submitted it, and if he is only citing the CPC for suppressing it then that makes me think he submitted it either right before or after the last election cycle happened. Granted this is pure inference, but it is given what we have available so far a reasonable one I think.<BR/><BR/>Even if the Libs suppressed the results, they did commission the study in the first place. That counts for more than I expect the CPC would have done, or at least would have done without rigging the parameters so that they got the answer they wanted just like Baird did on the economist's "analysis" of the economic impacts of Kyoto aka the doom and gloom piece of a few weeks ago now. So I don't see this biting the Libbys in the back much at all, even if they did not release the report immediately. The Libbys are after all the party that in the end did federally legalize SSM even if they were dragged to it. That counts for something, as does the fact they were willing to commission this study in a manner where the end results were not rigged to show a particular predetermined outcome/conclusion. We shall see I suppose.Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-39785818694199639682007-05-07T11:12:00.000-04:002007-05-07T11:12:00.000-04:00Whooee! I ain't sure this one won't come back and ...Whooee! I ain't sure this one won't come back and bite the Grits. The article says teh study was commissioned in 2003. It doesn't say when the completed study was delivered or to which government. I'm guessing that it was delivered to either the Chretien or Martin government. If the study had taken so long that it dragged into 2006, I'd be surprised.<BR/><BR/>Okay, I can believe that the HarpoonTossers wanna sit on it but why wasn't the report made public by the government that commissioned it? <BR/><BR/>As I recall, the Liberals were somewhat equivocal on SSM in 2003. Martin was aaginst it before he was for it. Maybe the report came in while he was still on the other side of the fence. <BR/><BR/>There was no excuse for keeping the report secret when it was submitted and there is no reason for secrecy now. So far, I don't think we have enough information to know if the Liberals kept the report under wraps. Do we?<BR/><BR/>JBJimBobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603665575714484326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-4864494267695767052007-05-07T11:03:00.000-04:002007-05-07T11:03:00.000-04:00Fascinating, both the report and it's odd suppress...Fascinating, both the report and it's odd suppression.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-37006395672638647712007-05-07T10:21:00.000-04:002007-05-07T10:21:00.000-04:00Wow. It must pain the Conservatives when such inco...Wow. It must pain the Conservatives when such inconvenient facts are brought to their attention. Little wonder the report never saw the light of day without an Access to Information request.Red Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00422305796158017027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-44708893043881492992007-05-07T10:14:00.000-04:002007-05-07T10:14:00.000-04:00Let's take a cue from the playbook used by the glo...Let's take a cue from the playbook used by the global warmists and the gun controllers. <BR/><BR/>"The research is invalid because those who initiated the survey simply put together what they wanted to find."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com