tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post612306228227779832..comments2024-03-29T04:13:44.353-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: RAND On The Tar Sandsbigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-44265009095190183922009-02-20T12:03:00.000-05:002009-02-20T12:03:00.000-05:00Carbon sequestration is limited in implementation,...Carbon sequestration is limited in implementation, and is very expensive, boosting the cost of extracting oil from the tar sands to over $100/barrel. It is not expected to come down in price. Also, it is not expected to be able to adequately dent CO2 emissions in time.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, CO2 is not geologically inert. It reacts with minerals, and can alter the integrity of where it is stored. This limits where it can be used. <BR/><BR/>Also, it is still not clear how long it remains captured even in a secure site.<BR/><BR/>Nuclear as hope to generate the power needed to extract the oil, but moving to a large generator is the wrong way to go. They should look into using smaller nuclear reactors, such as those being designed to fit on a flatbed truck... but don't expect any vision from the bozos running Alberta.<BR/><BR/>Next, melt water from the Rockies into Alberta's plains is currently declining. Some blame global warming. Alberta may be getting as lot drier.<BR/><BR/>Lost is all this is that the US would rather we stop using so much natural gas -- we burn the stuff like crazy in AB to make oil -- as NG is a cleaner fuel in terms of CO2 emission.Mark Richard Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16331995640397477486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-40599364426499948512009-02-19T20:51:00.000-05:002009-02-19T20:51:00.000-05:00RAND, being a corporation created by the Pentagon ...RAND, being a corporation created by the Pentagon to undertake Research ANd Development, was also the definitive word on many goofy schemes during Vietnam. McNamara had all the RAND research he could carry that convinced him Vietnam was winnable.<BR/><BR/>Then again there's the Enviro-Can study from last year that found sequestration creates as much carbon as it sequesters plus all the other pollutants associated with its processes. It takes a lot of energy to capture carbon, compress it and transport the stuff to a place where it can be safely buried and monitored.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-15997587210353531382009-02-19T12:45:00.000-05:002009-02-19T12:45:00.000-05:00Sequestration as oil pumping power is a win/win sc...Sequestration as oil pumping power is a win/win scenario for the companies. The original oil fields in Alberta still have oil in them, but the pressure is too low to get it out. So it would be like adding gas to a soda bottle with syrup in it. Beats adding *water*. Similar situation around the world. That oil is less 'dirty' and it brings on more production without new exploration.<BR/><BR/>Then there's the theory that a market for carbon itself will be developed to use the sequestered gases.Nileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096047389811381098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-62647925161226581402009-02-19T12:19:00.000-05:002009-02-19T12:19:00.000-05:00mnfu,That wouldn't surprise me at all.mnfu,<BR/><BR/>That wouldn't surprise me at all.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-74518842945641476832009-02-19T12:07:00.000-05:002009-02-19T12:07:00.000-05:00The sequestration isn't bad, except it was mostly ...The sequestration isn't bad, except it was mostly started as a way to get MORE oil out of the ground.Saskboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13258259356749068135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-80725605985429043352009-02-19T09:16:00.000-05:002009-02-19T09:16:00.000-05:00RAND is a bit crazy, I'd recommend the book Soldie...RAND is a bit crazy, I'd recommend the book Soldiers of Reason as an interesting look at them. One of the things that came up in that book was that Dr. Strangelove was based on a RAND analyst.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com