tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post7109891255245034645..comments2024-03-29T04:13:44.353-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: Rearranging The Deck Chairs On The Good Ship Denialbigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-55974655928588715042008-03-09T22:31:00.000-04:002008-03-09T22:31:00.000-04:00That was a particularly hilarious sock-puppet perf...That was a particularly hilarious sock-puppet performance. Casting anony as "Doctor" is as catastrophic as casting Patrick Swayze as King Lear. <BR/>Best to stick to roles like 'asylum inmate #5', or 'banjo-playing savant', anony.Lennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05937127608668201556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-21659819998071663982008-03-09T19:52:00.000-04:002008-03-09T19:52:00.000-04:00oh that changes everything - "dr"?I guess you can ...oh that changes everything - "dr"?<BR/><BR/>I guess you can buy any title off the internet these days - wonder if it came with a super duper decoder ring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-45898022144448735342008-03-09T19:08:00.000-04:002008-03-09T19:08:00.000-04:00Are you claiming Dr. Wilhelm is a sock-puppet? Ho...Are you claiming Dr. Wilhelm is a sock-puppet? How dare you?<BR/><BR/>Didn't you notice the "Dr."Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-31786125448188068562008-03-09T18:50:00.000-04:002008-03-09T18:50:00.000-04:00they = their...they = their...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-19993267534418253032008-03-09T18:49:00.000-04:002008-03-09T18:49:00.000-04:00John, while commendable that you'd want to discuss...John, while commendable that you'd want to discuss with sock puppets and other nutters, they have very little interest in discussing facts - they only give off the veneer of credibility and use that as an excuse to spew they garbage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-35785339066871925082008-03-09T17:30:00.000-04:002008-03-09T17:30:00.000-04:00Dr. Wilhelm: you example of Dr. Oleg Sorokhtin is...Dr. Wilhelm: you example of Dr. Oleg Sorokhtin is just what I was talking about. Everything from him that I was able to find was opinion. Where is his scientific evidence as opposed to his scientific opinion.<BR/><BR/>If you wish to discuss science, my starting point is always the following 3 points.<BR/><BR/>1) We are responsible for the recent increase in CO2.<BR/><BR/>2) CO2 will absorb and re-emit IR radiation.<BR/><BR/>3) If you increase the IR on an object it will either cause it to warm or cool less quickly.<BR/><BR/>Do you disagree with any of those? If so, please explain why.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>John CrossAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-22942861029172582822008-03-09T16:57:00.000-04:002008-03-09T16:57:00.000-04:00I wish I had time to debunk all your nonsense but ...<I>I wish I had time to debunk all your nonsense but I'm afraid that in the interim you'd have invented some more...</I><BR/><BR/>I still want to know who pays Wilsie and if they are in need of some advice in lie-avoidance. That's as much help as I'm morally prepared to provide and the help won't come cheap, but I figure, as they all slip into complete irrelevance, I should start skimming off some of the fat.<BR/><BR/>I'm planning on setting up a trust to fund a rehabilitation programme for young neoconservatives (which will include exercise, sport, proper nutrition plenty of reading, zit therapy, tips on dating and so forth), so really, the means justify the ends.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-49527810004621342232008-03-09T14:46:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:46:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-85587629943348192502008-03-09T14:39:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:39:00.000-04:00Anon, the Danes stand behindhttp://www.spacecenter...Anon, the Danes stand behind<BR/>http://www.spacecenter.dk/publications/lists-of-publications/ (those are peer reviewed).<BR/><BR/>The report you site is a reply to "Lockwood and Frohlic" has not been published in any peer-reviewed journal. So while interesting, it's more telling how anon seems to grasp onto this more than any other peer-reviewed papers. <BR/><BR/>This is hardly a right/left assertion (although there is a correlation between misrepresentation of facts done almost systematically by the right). So Anon, unless you have better understanding of what science is, I'd recommend you go back to playing with your lego and masturbating to pictures of Anne Coulter (and that is a smear). You see, fuckwads like yourself have a barely adequate understanding of how the real world functions....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-25538598708229943492008-03-09T14:19:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:19:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-89244540740454763672008-03-09T14:18:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:18:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-11532106133932215142008-03-09T14:04:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:04:00.000-04:00Dr Wilhelm if you were not some sock puppet you'd ...Dr Wilhelm if you were not some sock puppet you'd be the first to call out Dr. Ball and his ilk for being the ignorant fucktards that they are.<BR/><BR/>It seems that you are running after any bit of evidence (even if false) that affirm that global warming is not happening.<BR/><BR/>While the scientific method is one of debate and reaching conclusion, you have to start with a few absolute truths. <BR/><BR/>It's funny how Dr Sock Puppet refers to people on the Marc Morano's list of deniers for hire (people with no scientific credibility). <BR/><BR/>So Dr Sock Puppet, if you want to continue this debate, I suggest that you start putting facts on the table instead of your twat filled babble...<BR/><BR/>Wilson, you should know better... really are you trying to be stupid or does it come naturally to you?<BR/>I wish I had time to debunk all your nonsense but I'm afraid that in the interim you'd have invented some more...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-34542182693646165182008-03-09T13:54:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:54:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-29523260616146288762008-03-09T13:44:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:44:00.000-04:00I will point to a point to a peer reviewed paper t...I will point to a point to a peer reviewed paper that refutes Svensmarks peer-reviewed paper when he provides a peer reviewed paper. And S. troubles with facts are well known and can be found easily enough by searching his name through this very blog. The papers I link too are peer-reviewed.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-55975346501105469812008-03-09T13:30:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:30:00.000-04:00I suppose its time I leave this thread.The bare al...I suppose its time I leave this thread.<BR/><BR/>The bare allegation that the Danish Space agency has "done some strange things" is in no way an honest attempt to show a recent alternative study to the one I sourced at the outset.<BR/><BR/>I had some other very recent studies in keeping with the one shown above, which are equally noteworthy though I doubt it would be very welcome, and I respect a blog owner's right to have what he or she wants (or doesn't want) posted at his site.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, I must say that the apparent political leanings and pre-existing sentiment on this issue and how this affects the basic willingness to even consider viable positions has been fascinating indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-11875343552660448082008-03-09T13:27:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:27:00.000-04:00Let's keep it simple.-The Arctic ice has INCREASED...Let's keep it simple.<BR/><BR/>-The Arctic ice has INCREASED both in thickness and area.<BR/>-It's the coldest winter in 10 years, and is still raging in Ontario/East. <BR/>-Once the pine beetle numbers are calculated, and found there was a KILL due to the -30 temps for an extended period,<BR/><BR/>it's all but over for Gore and his religious following.<BR/><BR/>See guys, 3 of the biggest, loudest preached, warning signs, are now in the 'oops' file.<BR/><BR/>Your 'facts' are now fiction, to ordinary Canadians, who get their weather forcasts by looking outside.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-26365919441772101542008-03-09T13:19:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:19:00.000-04:00Actually Mr. BCL, what I asked for was as follows:...Actually Mr. BCL, what I asked for was as follows:<BR/><BR/>"If you could point out a scientific peer reviewed study that has been published or released by a scientific body, which refutes that recent paper I would be delighted to review it."<BR/><BR/>Again, I appreciate your desire to elevate the stature of those sources which confirm your position, however, my original point stands. <BR/><BR/>I will assume for the moment that you simply misread my above statement, rather than intentionally mischaracterized my point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-19356006592496049032008-03-09T13:07:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:07:00.000-04:00Doc, your argument was that the Realclimate respon...Doc, your argument was that the Realclimate response was not a journal article. Nor is the Svensmark paper. And if you are at all familiar with their earlier work you will know that they have indeed done some strange things to make the observations fit their theory, which have been pointed out in journal articles.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-14150830059565603992008-03-09T12:51:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:51:00.000-04:00Mr. BCL,Actually it was an official publication fr...Mr. BCL,<BR/><BR/>Actually it was an official publication from a National Scientific agency, based on a rigorous scientific study, by esteemed scientists.<BR/><BR/>Such a publication is more "official"and carries more scientific weight than publishing in a leading science journal.<BR/><BR/>Of course I can appreciate your desire to suggest this is somehow less scientifically weighty than a blog post, given your firmly stated position in this matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-12953499250635561592008-03-09T12:46:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:46:00.000-04:00I would add that suggesting that the Danish Space ...I would add that suggesting that the Danish Space Center somehow engaged in academic fraud would be an astonishing thing in the academic community.<BR/><BR/>To date, I'm unaware of any study that even begins to contradict the assertions made in that study, let alone suggests they are fabricated or the results otherwise manipulated.<BR/><BR/>Again, my statements are limited to the scientific community, rather than to arguments and musings by bloggers or those with partisan interests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-35889763451041700092008-03-09T12:45:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:45:00.000-04:00Nor was the svenmark paper a journal article.Nor was the svenmark paper a journal article.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-62576206034556045332008-03-09T12:40:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:40:00.000-04:00That link was an argumentative blog post.It was no...That link was an argumentative blog post.<BR/><BR/>It was not a scientific journal (nor would it in any way be approved as such by anyone with scientific credentials).<BR/><BR/>You seem to be confusing political rhetoric and defensive argumentation with scientific theory and method.<BR/><BR/>If you could point out a scientific peer reviewed study that has been published or released by a scientific body, which refutes that recent paper I would be delighted to review it.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, I would repeat the suggestion I made to Mr. Cross and perhaps you should leave science to the real scientists, like those of the Danish and Russian institutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-67180310317283478852008-03-09T12:35:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:35:00.000-04:00I see the scientific illiterate and right-wing nut...I see the scientific illiterate and right-wing nutters are posting early...<BR/><BR/>I can't wait to see the peer reviewed papers from these groups... until then, yes, you do deserve scorn for your ignorance...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-63836716776212169282008-03-09T12:34:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:34:00.000-04:00A couple of quicky notes:1) The Svensmark paper is...A couple of quicky notes:<BR/><BR/>1) The Svensmark paper is rebutted here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/10/cosmic-rays-don%e2%80%99t-die-so-easily/langswitch_lang/in<BR/><BR/>Just thinking back, I think S. has to argue that there is a lag between solar activity and Earth temp changes to get his data to match the observed trend of the last 30 years or so. Except that it throws all the earlier correlations (which assume no lag) out of whack.<BR/><BR/>And, Doc, the hard Winter we are having was already predicted back in August by the climatologists at the Hadley Center, due to the fact that a new La Nina was kicking in.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-52927316370071413082008-03-09T12:27:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:27:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.com