tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post782169740149543636..comments2024-03-28T00:54:34.206-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: CRU Hack: One Lingering Questionbigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-51768761218737852232010-07-29T18:25:26.001-04:002010-07-29T18:25:26.001-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Nileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096047389811381098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-41187945404114097672010-07-29T18:24:29.041-04:002010-07-29T18:24:29.041-04:00When litigation is opened, any data sources in the...When litigation is opened, any data sources in the party with the faintest chance of being relevant to the investigation, are potential producible evidence. In many companies, there are designated authorities to STOP disposal of data when a litigation flag goes up, rather like a lockdown, so the corporated body cannot be accused of dumping things that are producible. The courts really, really, are not generous towards those that go oopsie, teehee sorry.<br /><br />That said, depending on what a person's position is inside an organization they can *easily* have their email folders stuff to the rafters in a day -- mostly with CRAP. (anyone here end up playing "do NOT hit -reply to all- you MORONS!!!" It's a horror show. Add to that substituting email for an informal interchat program (which many orgs don't have yet)<br /><br />My rambling has to do with the fact courts are aware of shit like this and the fact many organizations don't have filters that can autosort emails by retention schedules for tagged individuals.<br /><br />Anyone who says it takes more time to delete emails than it does to ignore them,<br /><br />a/ hasn't had IT beating down the door to empty your fu**ing email folders because you won't get any NEW email until you do...<br />b/ hasn't had the fun of arranging transfer of emails into other forms of data storage instead of deleting them, while convincing IT you need to save *everything*, damn the storage space/costs, because some contrarian whiner might demand to see your toothbrush someday.<br />c/ apparently has no IT serviced email back up that saves/restores everything in your account up to a certain date, just in case. Past a certain date, you are legally allowed to dispose. There are policies and procedures for every modern major general out there.<br /><br />Also, if he makes a statement that he didn't delete any 'damaging' emails, first you would need to define 'damaging' by a legal standpoint, then the consistency of the organization's email practises would be measured against legal requirements for data management and the timeline involved. If the 'suspect's' email methods are not found irregular, then yeah to paraphrase a mountain into a teacup, his word is what happens. There's a little thing called "Good Faith" out there in corporate/legal land. Yes, officially, when actual auditing and litigation is going on-in-the-business-world.<br /><br />If someone wants to contend that this profoundly perfidious professor DID delete 'damaging' emails, whatever the hell those would be, cough up proof. Proof talks, whingeing walks. A baseless accusation is something that can either be considered slander or libel.<br /><br />I am sorry if I've merely repeated other people's already well thought out points.Nileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096047389811381098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-33774475402660963032010-07-29T16:57:16.677-04:002010-07-29T16:57:16.677-04:00Took long enough to answer. How is it that the Rus...Took long enough to answer. How is it that the Russell inquiry never asked the question?<br /><br />I am unsure what Phil Jones means by his comment that he has too many e-mails to "cope" with. We all do, but it takes more time to delete e-mails then to ignore them.<br /><br />Are we to take his word that he didn't delete any damaging e-mails? That type of answer wouldn't fly in the business world.Gerrard787https://www.blogger.com/profile/14313108762970361402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-12023141847328866812010-07-29T09:30:35.793-04:002010-07-29T09:30:35.793-04:00Oh, he's doomed. The inevitable hed to come:
...Oh, he's doomed. The inevitable hed to come:<br /><br />CLIMATEGATE CONSPIRATOR JONES ADMITS DELETING EMAILS<br /><br />40 years out, we still hear about how the moon landing was faked. 'Climategate' will never go away.Mark Richard Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16331995640397477486noreply@blogger.com