tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post115624393080820930..comments2024-03-28T00:54:34.206-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: Liberals Screwing Liberalsbigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156270672675128702006-08-22T14:17:00.000-04:002006-08-22T14:17:00.000-04:00Uh oh. It seems Cherniak has a little problem with...Uh oh. It seems Cherniak has a little problem with making <A HREF="http://myblahg.com" REL="nofollow">anti-semitic comments</A> himself.Robert McClellandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441059623685149683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156261401892513412006-08-22T11:43:00.000-04:002006-08-22T11:43:00.000-04:00Michael, VP of whatever in the Liberal Youth Wing ...Michael, VP of whatever in the Liberal Youth Wing is not a position of power. I would like to think that the Libs have a better way of handling their young hot-heads. <BR/><BR/>In any case, I have never seen Jason go after a conservative, no matter what their "position of power", in the same fashion as he went after this schnook. Not that he couldn't; his blog gets all sorts of Net personalities within both parties. But he doesn't.<BR/><BR/>And as I say, he's got the taste of blood on his tongue now, and has started denouncing left right and center. I frankly hope Mr. Dion gives him a call, and Iggy calls the dude from TDS, and tells them to put it back in their pants.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156260439488856912006-08-22T11:27:00.000-04:002006-08-22T11:27:00.000-04:00The way in which you criticize is important. Hube...The way in which you criticize is important. Hubert was an officer of the Liberal party and as VP communications his voice carries weight. There are many legitimate criticisms of Israel that can and should be made clearly and rationally. However merely spewing hatred such as calling it a "vile nation" and essentially praising the legacy of Hezbollah is over the top and outrageous. Had he argued that Israel should have shown restraint, should have worked with Lebanon, should not have engaged in a campaign to destroy civilian infrastructure, should not have used cluster bombs, or any other such legitimate criticism that would have been generally well received I think. However his statements show merely hate Israel; that is unacceptable.Progressive Maritimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08324167275786533054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156256062283759662006-08-22T10:14:00.000-04:002006-08-22T10:14:00.000-04:00Indeed, Ted, your argument would be more convincin...Indeed, Ted, your argument would be more convincing if Mr. Hubert hadn't been only the first in a chain of denunciations on Jason's part. The purge is apparently on.<BR/><BR/>Although I must say its big of you to allow Wrzesnewskyj to remain in the party. <BR/><BR/>As for being denounced, don't get greedy, I've already denounced you once. But feel free to denounce me. I mean that's the whole point of it, isn't it? Getting the old lynch mob together. It feels good.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156254029399898042006-08-22T09:40:00.000-04:002006-08-22T09:40:00.000-04:00Not sure I agree with your comparison BCL. First o...Not sure I agree with your comparison BCL. <BR/><BR/>First of all, Jason routinely lets very "heated" (as you put it) language go by. In fact, Hubert's comments went by without comment from him.<BR/><BR/>Second of all, as Jason points out, the only reason this particular comment is different is because the lad holds an official position in the Liberal Party. As such he is speaking for the Liberal Party or at least representing it. Think Klander.<BR/><BR/>Third of all, these were not just "heated" comments from an official of the Liberal Party, and he has not been dumped on (by Jason at least) for his Israel views as you suggest. He called Canadian Jews "violent Zionists", said "<I>this community</I> is so absurdly selfish" (which reminded me of Ross Perot talking to a group of blacks in the 1993 election and saying "you people need to realize"), and he called Israel "the most vile 'nation' in human history" (more "vile" I guess than Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Mao's China, Pinochet's Argentina, etc.) which obviously challenges Israel's right to exist at all (by putting nation in quotation marks). And not only does he think Hezbollah aren't terrorists, he thinks they are great "freedom fighters". (He also thinks Castro is one of history's greatest leaders, BTW.)<BR/><BR/>On <A HREF="canadiancerberus.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Cerberus</A>, I tolerate a lot of Israel-bashing, as stupid and shortsighted as I think that is. I even don't think Wrzesnewskyj should be kicked out of the party (although keeping his critics position doesn't make sense if actually did advocate Hezbollah be dropped from the terrorist list). But Hubert wasn't just commenting about the Middle East. He was making direct and negative comments about Canadian Jews and way-too-over-the-top comments about Israel.<BR/><BR/>And if he had been just any blogger, we wouldn't be talking about him now. But he held an official position in the Liberal Party and that makes a world of difference.<BR/><BR/>Ted <BR/><A HREF="canadiancerberus.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Cerberus</A>Ted Bettshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06223729391428982448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156252679110618602006-08-22T09:17:00.000-04:002006-08-22T09:17:00.000-04:00As much as Cherniak annoys me in this instance, I ...As much as Cherniak annoys me in this instance, I have always felt that one of his better qualities was that he always seemed quite sincere and was in fact difficult to get upset. The War, I am afraid, has made him loopy.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156251468008406162006-08-22T08:57:00.000-04:002006-08-22T08:57:00.000-04:00I appear to be suggesting no such thing. Liberals...I appear to be suggesting no such thing. Liberals can always criticize Liberals. I, for example, have criticized at least four of the Lib Leadership candidates on my Blog, and often in the harshest possible terms.<BR/><BR/>I have never seen a Blogging Tory do what Jason did to this guy, and I find his behavior shameful. As I say,Jason treats the Tories who visit his blog and slime the Liberal party better than he does 19 year old Liberal volounteers from B.C.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-1156250899692903992006-08-22T08:48:00.000-04:002006-08-22T08:48:00.000-04:00You appear to be suggesting that Liberals should n...You appear to be suggesting that Liberals should not be criticized by Liberals, even if they say stupid/inflammatory/wrong/intolerant/etc things.<BR/><BR/>This strikes me as a dishonest stance to take.<BR/><BR/>I'm a member of the CPC and I will often criticize CPC bloggers/politicians more harshly for their blunders than I will the Libs or NDP. When MY party does something dumbass it reflects on me, and so I take them to task because of it.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693094640731170153noreply@blogger.com