tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post9082048823351429174..comments2024-03-29T04:13:44.353-04:00Comments on BigCityLib Strikes Back: Paul Dewar On Faith And Politicsbigcitylibhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-68286143285674888162011-10-04T19:16:11.222-04:002011-10-04T19:16:11.222-04:00sharonapple88:
Do you remember the big stink cons...sharonapple88:<br /><br />Do you remember the big stink conservatives raised about Paul Martin other progressive politicians being denied communion because they did not advocate for any change in the abortion laws? And what a good thing it was to deny them?<br /><br />I'm wondering what those same folks think about Jim Flaherty and Jason Kenney and other Catholics in a party that has vowed not to raise the issue and not to even allow a private members abortion bill to be passed. Funny how quiet they are now.Ted Bettshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06223729391428982448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-5469764379041830262011-10-03T22:46:32.889-04:002011-10-03T22:46:32.889-04:00Social gospel types want to impose their religion ...Social gospel types want to impose their religion on us just like so-cons. That Im more sympathetic to one does nothing to remove the stench of religious irrationality from the reasoning of both.<br /><br />To make matters worse these social gospel types set back the cause of secularism by providing cover to the so-cons.KChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16932623568330893522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-38274366196689560652011-10-02T22:11:30.139-04:002011-10-02T22:11:30.139-04:00Pardon the pun, but it should not mean that politi...<i>Pardon the pun, but it should not mean that political people should have no "soul"--that people should only have non-religious morality and beliefs.</i><br /><br />I have no problem with religious people wanting to get into politics. I think what makes people nervous is the idea of politicians imposing their religious beliefs on people. Not all religious politicians do, especially in Canada. The Catholic church threatens to <a href="http://www.tldm.org/News7/Ratzinger.htm" rel="nofollow">deny communion and the Eucharist to politicians for supporting abortion,</a> but that doesn't stop Catholic politicians like <a href="http://www.theinterim.com/issues/abortion/chretien-flouts-catholic-teaching-i-am-a-catholic-and-for-abortion/" rel="nofollow">Jean Chretien</a> and <a href="http://www.tldm.org/News11/OntarioPremierConfrontedByProlifeCandidate.htm" rel="nofollow">Dalton McGuinty</a> from being pro-choice. A Sikh leader told Canadian MPs that they should vote against same-sex marriage, but Navdeep Bains <a href="http://www.equal-marriage.ca/resource.php?id=241" rel="nofollow">argued for same-sex marriage rights</a>.<br /><br />In almost all of these cases, though, the politicians emphasize the civic -- the Charter, individual rights. Chretien once put it as having to live up to his "responsibilities."sharonapple88https://www.blogger.com/profile/11149226422042041129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-11011415924340099362011-10-02T18:52:59.176-04:002011-10-02T18:52:59.176-04:00The NDP can do whatever the hell it wants, but I&#...The NDP can do whatever the hell it wants, but I'm done with the religiously deluded and would not vote for anyone who is placing their so-called faith in such prominence. And yes the Old Testie is by far the more nefarious, but there is plenty in the New version to be wary of as well.Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058734544373976550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-8254342635847802412011-10-02T18:36:39.270-04:002011-10-02T18:36:39.270-04:00Should the NDP not welcome people with religious b...Should the NDP not welcome people with religious beliefs and value systems? The party invites Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and Sikhs to run as candidates. Why not Christians? Yes, people always talk about the separation of "church" and state. Pardon the pun, but it should not mean that political people should have no "soul"--that people should only have non-religious morality and beliefs.<br /><br />Based on the quoted passage, Paul Dewar spoke about questioning Christianity (or at least its interpretation). Any Christian can "live the gospel." We should not assume that living the gospel only belongs to right-wing born again Christians. I look at Reverend Hawkes who officiated Jack Layton's funeral/celebration of life ceremony. I would hope that the Reverend believes that he is living the gospel.Skinny Dipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12818163310102120130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-19600739371440768212011-10-02T18:36:33.306-04:002011-10-02T18:36:33.306-04:00I've long said that a person of faith can'...I've long said that a person of faith can't leave it at the door, and shouldn't. Faith is just a system of beliefs. You just have to delve into which of them he subscribes to.<br /><br />And Omar? Living the Gospel is a good thing. The gospels say to feed the poor, clothe the naked, heal the sick, don't let the moneylenders (read: banks) fuck everyone over, and just generally don't be a douchebag.<br /><br />The ones who are living the Old Testament are the ones you have to watch out for!Lunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06068882913386501048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-11667333476297391662011-10-02T18:19:57.269-04:002011-10-02T18:19:57.269-04:00I'm an atheist but I've known people of fa...I'm an atheist but I've known people of faith whose politics were impeccable, or as close to it as anyone else I've known. And it was obvious to me that their faith informed their politics. If they got to the right place, who am I to sneer at the journey that led them there?poggehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15230532270911414866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-89104998936941802422011-10-02T18:16:20.685-04:002011-10-02T18:16:20.685-04:00Well, I think it puts Dewar in a better position t...Well, I think it puts Dewar in a better position to speak to those 80% or so of Canadians who aren't (like we three) Atheists. They do vote, you know.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23292180.post-78294529106954370422011-10-02T17:30:42.634-04:002011-10-02T17:30:42.634-04:00Oh man, that takes the all the air out of the Dewa...Oh man, that takes the all the air out of the Dewar balloon right there.Jim Parretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15331887342292476909noreply@blogger.com