The T.O Star has produced the map above of GTA firearm licence holders as a percentage of the population, by postal area. The numbers for Stouffville are so high because--so I hear at least--the farmers out there need fire arms to guard their crops. Steve Earle explains.
I guess since the criminals hacked the registry so often, they might as well report on who owns what for average folks to worry about.
ReplyDeleteAll the more reason to abolish the registry.
ReplyDeleteStoufville law abiding farmers have a high rate.
Jane Finch has a low registration rate.
Where would you feel safer?
The previous two talking points have been brought to you by Douchebag Wine.
ReplyDelete"For when you only have straw men to back you up."
I guess shooting deaths have all but vanished since the gun ban, right?
ReplyDeleteOh for heavens sake ridenrain - do you always have to act the fool?
ReplyDeleteI know farmers who still use a scarecrow and donkeys. Yup, and it works.
We've been have real problems with wolves and coyotes, running through town as well - no rabbits, missing cats galore. Well, wolves and coyotes are deathly afraid of donkeys, so some farmers rent donkeys to protect their hen houses, etc. - it works.
Rotterdam said...Stoufville law abiding farmers have a high rate.
ReplyDeleteJane Finch has a low registration rate. Where would you feel safer?
Jane/Finch ...because statistically speaking crime rates are higher in rural areas by proportion. Confirmed by StatCan (get the info while it's still accurate). Less cops and much greater response times; so less chance of getting caught.
This has always been the case, even Sherlock Holmes pointed this out to Watson in "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches". When riding by train through the countryside, Watson made the comment about the feeling safer there than in the confines of Baker St.; to which Holmes countered with his anxieties ...backed by the truth of the matter.
"I guess shooting deaths have all but vanished since the gun ban, right?"
ReplyDeleteYup.
Just like the DNA data bank and the sex offenders registry and completely eliminated sexual assaults.
And how increasing sentences for certain crimes has completely eliminated those crimes.
ha ha ha
During our latest drug gang shoot out, many of the folks involved were on bail or on parole for gun related crimes. All were individuals known to police and all had a past history of violence and illegal firearms. If they were in jail under the mandatory firearm law, they could not have been out to commit those crimes.
ReplyDeleteYou have drug gang shootouts Ridofbrain? Maybe you should be the one in jail.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Jane Creba would agree with you, Paul.
ReplyDeletePaul, why does Saskatoon have a higher murder rate than TO? Just asking.
ReplyDelete"I can't find StatsCan data on rates of sexual assault, but again, I suspect it is far, far higher in large urban areas."
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt that, if not almost even it will be slightly higher in rural communities. All violent crime rates are higher in rural areas according to StatsCan.
Take TO's 2.5 million and spread that over a sparsely inhabited rural province. TO's problem (all major cities really) is the population is concentrated so you hear about the crime all the time. Less cops mean more crime, its that simple because criminals are not completely stupid.
BTW - I do agree with you there are some dangerous areas in any city (Jane/Finch among them) however the overall trend is that rural centers have higher crime rates than urban.
Read it if you don't believe me...
Smaller centres see their share of crime
How are you sure Ridofbrain? Can you communicate with the departed or do you lead a school of gifted individuals Professor X?
ReplyDeleteTrouble reading, Dumstrum?
ReplyDeleteYou're full of shit.
Rural Canada does indeed have a higher rate of violent crime, homicide and firearm homicide, as is made clear by TofKW's Statscan link.
--> Small urban areas have the highest rates of total violent crime.
ReplyDelete--> Robbery rates in large urban areas 1000% (yes, 1000%!) higher in large urban areas over rural areas.
--> Use of guns and knives in the commission of a violent offence 200% to 300% higher in large urban areas then rural areas.
A Comparison of Large Urban, Small Urban and Rural Crime Rates, 2005, Statistics Canada
. . . the overall trend is that rural centers have higher crime rates than urban. - T of KW
ReplyDeleteYet the StatsCan report you link to says otherwise.
. . . small urban areas have the highest rates of both total violent crimes (murder, assault, sexual assault and robbery) and total property crime. - Statistics Canada
The StatsCan report is a bit fuzzy though because they say the above and then go on to say that homicide is highest in rural areas.
Paul, I'm uncertain if you just like playing the devil's advocate, or you wish to hold on to the old stereotype, whether you simply enjoy bashing TO (I admit I do this myself), or you are taking this on as a right vs left argument.
ReplyDeleteIf it is the later I feel sorry for you, as this is not a political argument. The various police forces in rural and smaller urban areas have been telling us this for years now, all in hopes of educating the public in order to pressure the various levels of government to hire more police officers and/or give the existing ones the resources to tackle the problem.
What part of the formula "less cops + greater response times = higher crime rates" do you not get? Criminals sure understand it. It's also the reason rural folk feel strongly about their hunting rifles. Now that's not very politically correct, but it sure is understandable to me.
Oh, and loving your '1000% higher' and '200-300% higher' stats. You and I are reading very different reports from StatsCan ...or just looking at them differently.
Now you can continue to propagate the myth that rural and small urban centres are some type of Utopia straight out of the Leave it to Beaver era; or you can face the reality of what the police and StatCan have been trying to educate us about for years now. Rural / small urban centres indeed have their share of crime ...and then some.
The StatCan report is somewhat confusing in some of their conclusions. They are clear though in saying the robberies are "nearly" 1000% higher in large urban areas then rural.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Quebec and Alberta are not included in the stats.
Quebec, with their highest crime rates in large urban areas, would likely affect the national data significantly. It's too bad we don't have their data, and Alberta's too, included in the StatsCan report.
Not including Quebec in particular
Your comprehension skills have failed you again.
ReplyDeleteQuebec and Alberta are indeed factored into those stats. The report simply points out that the crime rate is highest in LUAs in Quebec, and highest in rural Alberta, contrary to the rest of the country.