if we are in a natural warming trend since the end of the little ice age, we would expect most recent years to be the hottest.
The little ice age was from the 16th-mid-19th century, and on average temperatures were to have dropped by 0.4C-0.6C. (Also interesting to note, the temperature drop wasn't necessarily global and for a period was localized in Europe. Compare China and Western North America to Europe in the charts. The same cannot be said about recent increases.)
If this is part of the natural cycle, how is this suppose to work?
Why discount gases as having effect when the basic science points to the composition of the atmosphere altering temperatures on planets see Venus and Mars and the basic research on the absorption properties of C02 shows that it will absorb more energy than Nitrogen and Oxygen.
Well, climate is a complex science, and the above points pretty much simplify things, but I don't think we can point towards this being all a part of the natural cycle and be satisfied. How is this happening? If this is a natural warming effect, what will be the end point? What will be the effect on the planet? How should we prepare, and is there anything we can do (other than pray to volcanos to erupt?)
Hey Jerome, even Nature has to have reasons for doing thing. Where is your scientific proof that it's just a "natural warming trend" and how do you define that term? How come Nature all of a sudden decided to raise temperatures suddenly just like the form of a hockey stick? Funny that.
if we are in a natural warming trend since the end of the little ice age, we would expect most recent years to be the hottest.
ReplyDeleteif you think this proves anything about co2, you're the one politicizing nature.
besides, in the short term we havent really warmed up beyond the temperatures reached in 1998.
you should probably censor my comment like you did to redtory the other day. that was fucking disgraceful, just because he made fun of asshat warman.
Actually, if you look at the graph, and most of the other data sets, I think we're above 1998 levels.
ReplyDeleteif we are in a natural warming trend since the end of the little ice age, we would expect most recent years to be the hottest.
ReplyDeleteThe little ice age was from the 16th-mid-19th century, and on average temperatures were to have dropped by 0.4C-0.6C. (Also interesting to note, the temperature drop wasn't necessarily global and for a period was localized in Europe. Compare China and Western North America to Europe in the charts. The same cannot be said about recent increases.)
If this is part of the natural cycle, how is this suppose to work?
Volcanic activity has been linked to decline in temperatures. Low solar activity has been linked to the little ice age.
The problem is that there has been a steady increase in temperature even though sunspot activity dropped during the period of 2000-2010. In fact, sun activity doesn't correlate with temperature increases for the last forty years.
Why discount gases as having effect when the basic science points to the composition of the atmosphere altering temperatures on planets see Venus and Mars and the basic research on the absorption properties of C02 shows that it will absorb more energy than Nitrogen and Oxygen.
Well, climate is a complex science, and the above points pretty much simplify things, but I don't think we can point towards this being all a part of the natural cycle and be satisfied. How is this happening? If this is a natural warming effect, what will be the end point? What will be the effect on the planet? How should we prepare, and is there anything we can do (other than pray to volcanos to erupt?)
Hey Jerome, even Nature has to have reasons for doing thing. Where is your scientific proof that it's just a "natural warming trend" and how do you define that term? How come Nature all of a sudden decided to raise temperatures suddenly just like the form of a hockey stick? Funny that.
ReplyDelete"if we are in a natural warming trend since the end of the little ice age, we would expect most recent years to be the hottest."
ReplyDeleteShorter Jerome: Its been warming because its been warming.