Wednesday, August 08, 2007

Give The Denier His Due

Steve McIntyre's weblog Climate Audit has always been a hotbed of Climate Change Denialism, and he has spent much of the last several years flailing about madly in an effort to discredit the science behind AGW. However, it seems he might have hit onto something this time, having detected an error in the Global Historical Climatology Network's data collection procedures which, when corrected, reorders the the ranking of 10 hottest years recorded in the lower 48 states of the United States such that several years in the 1990s and 2000s fall out of the top ten, and several years from the 1930s come into it.

The new and old top ten lists can be found here, and the numbers for the last 120 years, as corrected by NASA itself, can be found here.

Now, there are lots of mitigating factors to consider. For example, the new adjustment does not seem to affect global average values much (these are calculated separately using results from a number of distinct networks). Nevertheless, grist for the skeptics mill, and material that will get huge play over the course of the next several months.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

flailing about madly in an effort to discredit...

Just curious: is that also your perspective on financial audits?

MrPete

Dennis (Second Thoughts) said...

It's very "big" of you to post this item. Good for you.

Al Gore lies - he gets richer off the Wamonger fools . . said...

"years flailing about madly in an effort to discredit the science behind AGW. "

hmmmm so he, on his own nickel, systematically exposes global warming hysteric fraud after fraud, he fisks the great hockey stick lie author, he reports on hysteric after hysteric who refuse to publish their source data and methods ( HELLO !! Scientific Method 101) and that's the best slimy Liberal drive by smear you can come up.

You are a pathetic Warmonger of the first order..

Better go by some credits now, make Al Gore some more $$$. Wanna bet he blames today's Indonesian earthquake on "Global Warming"

The Great GW Fraud . . . being exposed by a truly great Canadian.

Think I'll submit his name for an Order of Canada.

He deserves it

Anonymous said...

You mean they finally admitted one of their errors he found because they couldn't hide it.

Great job at handling the temps guys, you only messed them up 25%, what's .2 amoung friends?

deno said...

I have to give you credit BCL, most leftist/liberal blogs would just ignore this information or try to spin it.

You decided to post it on your blog and let the reader decide how this information affects their opinion on the AGW debate.

There are few blogs on both the left and the right that would post any information that goes against their beliefs or opinions so when I see someone do it I can’t help but have respect for that person.

Well done!

Deno

TCO said...

Thanks for giving Steve his due. You get some props for that. And Steve gets some props for actually doing something scientific for once.

I don't think the skeptics should gloat or overgeneralize. Nor should warmers be defensive. Let's just be phlegmatic on both sides. Just let the chips fall.

Richard said...

I have to give you credit BCL, most leftist/liberal blogs would just ignore this information or try to spin it.

You decided to post it on your blog and let the reader decide how this information affects their opinion on the AGW debate.

There are few blogs on both the left and the right that would post any information that goes against their beliefs or opinions so when I see someone do it I can’t help but have respect for that person.

Well done!


I have to agree. Well done.

Anonymous said...

People still read stuff about 'global warming/climate change'? interesting...

Anonymous said...

Both skeptics and warmers should be happy with this correction.

- Paul G

Ti-Guy said...

I have to give you credit BCL, most leftist/liberal blogs would just ignore this information or try to spin it.

No, they wouldn't have. Stop lying, Deno.

Remember...we're the reality based...You wingnuts are the liars.

Anonymous said...

Al Gore - the money he makes goes to environmental projects, etc. Get your facts straight before making stupid statements.

Facts and figures - phff...you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize something is happening.

How dumb can people get - or is it that they don't want to give up anything to better the world.

TCO said...

I'm going out to buy a stretch Hummer now that I know there is more room to pollute. Oo-rah!

David Duff said...

Sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar!

dearieme said...

Since "Denier" is used to suggest an analogy with a Holocaust Denier, you might have the good grace to change that offensive noun. He subjected data to critical scrutiny. He proved right. Pretty much the opposite of holocaust denial, surely?

Ti-Guy said...

Good point!

*rolls eyes*

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