Thursday, January 10, 2008

Free-D Update: Free-D Sells Out!

Looks like Connie and Mark are tired of getting hauled into court. The owners of Free Dominion have sold their forum to a company based in Panama City, Panama, to avoid more legal trouble:

Conn Esq Web Design was originally intended to be a corporation offering internet design and programming services, holding Free Dominion as an example of its production. But in the past year the corporation has begun to see ownership of Free Dominion as too much of a potential liability because the website has become a target for individuals and government organizations determined to attack freedom of speech, using a variety of methods at their disposal.

Considering the political climate in Canada today, Conn Esq Web Design Ltd. has made the corporate decision to sell Free Dominion to Liberty News Service Inc. of Panama City, Panama. Liberty News Service’s corporate mission is to buy websites from individuals and corporations living in countries where free speech is under attack, and protect those websites from being shut down or seized by oppressive governments. LNS is now the legal owner of the Free Dominion database and software, all logs and information about FD members, and the domains freedominion.com, freedominion.org and freedominion.net. Because it is not permissible to transfer a dot ca domain to a foreign corporation, we will retain freedominion.ca, which will continue to point to freedominion.com.

Liberty News Service Inc. has, I must say, kept a very low Net profile, the only certain reference to it being this very Free-D Posting. Any further information on the company would be appreciated.

In any case, Connie and Mark go from being site administrators to Lead Moderators, and they have been advising Free-D Members as to methods of hiding their identity:


2) Do not reveal details about yourself in the forum that could help people identify you. If you think you have already revealed too much, consider abandoning your existing FD userid and registering a new one.

Mark concludes:


Let's use our new strategic position to its fullest advantage.


Let's return our country to the values of liberty that are the source of its greatness.


Yeah. Let's use pseudonyms to bash foreigners, gays, and dark skinned immigrants.

20 comments:

Ti-Guy said...

Reminiscent of Hitler and his gang retreating to the bunker during the last days of the Reich.

What's with the paranoid "change your ID" recommendation? Everyone knows who FD posters are; they're the miseries and loonies we live with all around us and who, we are shocked to find when they tie one on, really do have bizarre beliefs (which they are entitled to have). There doesn't seem to be much of a push in Canadian society to start rounding 'em up and interning them (much to my chagrin), so unless some of them have real concerns about having broken existing law, I don't know what they're afraid of.

Anonymous said...

If Free Dominion were truly free, wouldn't they encourage their people to STAND UP & BE COUNTED?

What with the secrecy? Embarrassment or shame, perhaps?
And what about their Christian fundamentalism such that they attended the conference at100 Huntley St. with World Net Daily's Joseph Farah?

I wonder why I'm even bothering talking about them, come to that.

Reality Bites said...

I'm a bit skeptical about how much protection this offers. IP logs and stuff like that won't be available to any Canadian authorities, but the fact remains that Connie and Mark are running the site and are responsible for the continent.

As you mention, there is no mention anywhere of this company. Certainly no evidence that it has worked in protecting any Canadians from the CHRC or the criminal code.

I'm pretty sure Stormfront doesn't release information to Canadian courts or human rights commissions, but that didn't help anyone charged in the past.

I also think that without fear of prosecution, the content on FD is going to get a lot uglier. I'll never forget reading Mark Fournier's agonized decision to FINALLY ban overt white supremacy posters a year or so ago.

Principled conservatism? Not by any sane definition. Nazi-wannabe scum of the earth gathered in their own little sewer. The kind of people who make Stephen Harper and his gang of thugs look good in comparison.

Ti-Guy said...

Meh...I think it's simply the path to lunacy to invoke freedom as the grandest ideal (which it is) to condemn other people for being too free.

The real issue with the FD'ers is that they, literally, hate us for our freedom.

Anonymous said...

"Let's use pseudonyms to bash foreigners, gays, and dark skinned immigrants."

You really shouldn't use "bash" in this context, but ignoring that, I doubt they spend a tenth of the time criticizing the aforementioned that they do bashing Harper and the Conservative party. In Connie's own words she would rather have campaigned for McGuinty than Tory in the past election.

I think the fact that FD is *the* most anti-Harper anti-Conservative site should be mentioned for context. Connie's not even a conservative, she's a pro-life hardcore feminist who is actually very supportive of multiculturalism and open immigration, just ask her.

Ti-Guy said...

she's a pro-life hardcore feminist who is actually very supportive of multiculturalism and open immigration, just ask her.

Yeah, a real Germaine Greer.

I care less these days what individuals believe personally while the evidence shows that they're all too willing to support the most reactionary, illiberal, bigoted and dishonest ideologues, for reasons that have never been explained to me exactly, beyond this worship of "fwee speach!"

Anonymous said...

I care less these days what individuals believe personally while the evidence shows that they're all too willing to support the most reactionary, illiberal, bigoted and dishonest ideologues, for reasons that have never been explained to me exactly, beyond this worship of "fwee speach!"

notwithstanding the obvious that this sentence is so badly written as to be almost devoid of meaning, I can still make out what ti-guy means with reference to his previous posts.

ti-guy is confounded by the idea that some people are okay with having opinions which differ from theirs broadcast publicly. in his little world, everybody should fight to silence anyone with whom they disagree, rather than engaging them in discussion.

to support people's rights to holding and expressing alternate view points is to "worship fwee speech".

having read most of ti-guy's ramblings on the Steyn fiasco (side question: does ti-guy do anything else than post on this site - i'm picturing a loser in boxers on his pc all day with a box of joe louis handy), he himself is definitely a reactionary, illiberal, bigoted and dishonest ideologue, and although I fully support his right to spew his garbage, I dont support him one bit.

Ti-Guy said...

Refresh my memory, nonny. Which sock-puppet have you been lately?

in his little world, everybody should fight to silence anyone with whom they disagree, rather than engaging them in discussion.

Sorry, but there's no point in engaging liars and lunatics...there can be no expectation of good faith, as your sock-puppetting demonstrates quite clearly.

But do continue your hissy, cunty anonymous attacks. They're very amusing.

Ti-Guy said...

Oh, and it's spelled Jos Louis.

De rien.

Anonymous said...

Refresh my memory, nonny. Which sock-puppet have you been lately?

I'm not sure what that means - but it certainly seems like Ti-Guy is losing his battle with mental illness.

Franchement, tu m'accuses de mauvaise foi apres mon premier post, quand les tiens sont remplis d'attaque gratuites sur quiconque qui ne daigne pas se soumettre a ton ideologie et celle de BCL.

On peut argumenter avec bonne foi si tu veux, mais si tu lances des insultes a gauche et a droite, il faut s'attendre a en recevoir aussi. Hmmm, peut-etre que je te demande de considerer une logique trop avancee pour toi.

Ti-Guy said...

Franchement, tu m'accuses de mauvaise foi apres mon premier post,

Mon doux Jésus! Ai-je vraiment fait ça?

Une intervention initiale qui n'est qu'une attaque personelle n'est pas une indication de bonne foi de ta part, ma chouette.

Hmmm, peut-etre que je te demande de considerer une logique trop avancee pour toi.

Sans doute.

Anonymous said...

Here, I'll translate for the Toronto people:

Frank, my foie de gras is not mauve, it is premier!

Mountain of Jesus! Bulk food.

(unintelligible...AA intervention?)

I demand you consider my advances!

Sanitary napkin.

Anonymous said...

So they are changing from a website which claims that discriminatory comments sometimes happen to find their way onto the website, to a website which undertakes complex transactions in order to facilitate public comments which would violate Canadian human rights laws?

Nice.

Reality Bites said...

Connie's not even a conservative, she's a pro-life hardcore feminist who is actually very supportive of multiculturalism and open immigration, just ask her.

No matter how many times you repeat this lie it won't be true.

Just because her partner is unemployable and she's been supporting him doesn't make her a feminist.

Just horny.

Ti-Guy said...

When I think about it, the more FD makes its community untraceable, the more it looks like a perfect venue for teh Islamofascists to organise themselves online.

Reality Bites said...

Untraceable? We've got John Pacheco, Pete Vere, Connie Wilkins, Mark Fournier, Suzanne whatever-the-fuck-her-name-is and, let's not forget, every Nazi's favourite Jew, CPC Ottawa EDA board member, Ed Seib.

Supreme egotists all. They can all adopt new names, but they'll make enough links back to their old personae to make it child's play for someone like Richard Warman to trace them in a way that will stand up in court.

Incredible arrogance, ignorance of society and their contemptible place in it will continue to be their weakness.

They truly have no more understanding than their friends at StormFront that they are NOT the decent, moral people. They are the people that decent, moral people need to keep hidden under rocks where they belong.

Anonymous said...

"foreigners, gays, and dark skinned immigrants."


ahhh that would be Liberal speak for suckers who vote for us and they we screw over, ignore and tax to hell.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for that comment. I've been smoking too much sweet, sweet crack. Christ, I'm so whacked, I can't even spell "doofus."

Again, apologies to all you fine Liberals and progressives. We Conservatives really suck ass, eh?

Anonymous said...

"foreigners, gays, and dark skinned immigrants."

ahhh that would be Liberal speak for suckers who vote for us and they we screw over, ignore and tax to hell.

> I'd say voting liberal for life is a small price to pay if it means the government will let your entire extended family into the country whether they would be assets or not (usually not).

Especially when they'll happily pick whitey's pocket to fill yours.

Exactly who are the suckers?

Anonymous said...

The site claims it is has been sued by Richard Warman for libelous statement by commentors
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=91086&sid=aa399804f3eec20fda4067004acd0555

http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.freedominion.ca&q=warman&sitesearch=www.freedominion.ca&client=pub-2318968599694526&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&safe=active&cof=GALT%3A%23E9382F%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23CCCCCC%3BVLC%3A7E3939%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A000000%3BALC%3AE9382F%3BLC%3AE9382F%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A7E3939%3BGIMP%3A7E3939%3BLH%3A65%3BLW%3A360%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedominion.ca%2FphpBB2%2Ftemplates%2FFreeDominion%2Fimages%2Ffd_logo.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedominion.ca%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en