Monday, June 04, 2012

Arthur Topham Update


From Doug Christie's newsletter. Updated from here.  319(2) is, of course, one of the Criminal Code hate speech provisions.

7 comments:

Harry Abrams said...

FYI, today we're still waiting on CONFIRMATION OF CHARGES from the RCMP before this story breaks in the MSM.

Marky Mark said...

Harry, I noted the discussion over at FD comparing X to Y, with X being people like Topham and Y being anti-racism lefties who also are anti-Zionist (or at least very harsh critics of Israel). Will BB in addition to strong advocacy for the community and for Israel clarify its position to make it clear what while it opposes left wing BDS'ers, those in that category are not racists?

Harry Abrams said...

@Marky
Sorry, but your reasoning appears to me to be a bit convoluted. If you are implying that BB simply "condemns anyone who criticizes Israel" then that is a misapprehension.

Marky Mark said...

Harry, I'm really trying to get down to the real issue here which is whether those who admit to being anti-Zionist (or, for some, those who are pretty fierce and constant critics of Israel to the point of demonization) but who (in both cases) don't appear to dislike Jews should be called anti-Semites. That is what was raised on that thread but, more important, that is what CPCCA examined a couple of years ago and discussed in its report. On that thread, it seems they're trying to say that those who actually do think anti-Zionism (and/or criticism that amounts to demonization, etc.) is a form of anti-Semitism are: 1. being inconsistent; and 2. are choosing to go after the less worrisome threat.

bigcitylib said...

I think MM might be referencing this thread here:

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=155482&sid=5fe740212ee724a4d3c5d8651a38a1b0

Marky Mark said...

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=155120&p=1712444&hilit=baglow#p1712444

That is the right link but not sure it displays without logging in. Harry will know, as he was part of it, and it referenced an earlier discussion here.

Harry Abrams said...

@Marky
I've seen lots of this "I don't hate Jews, but Israel has no right to exist" BS and it's just more nauseating racism.

Almost as bad are the clowns who pontificate about what they think Israel should be and how |Jews should supposedly act, as a perceived collectivity.

ie: ugly race riots against African refugees in Tel Aviv. Yes, racism happens in Israel too, and it's deplorable just as it happens in other places. But to these racist nuts, it's just "I told you so" fuel to throw on another fire upon which to burn the Jews. And they dish it up sanctimoniously too. But to any reasonably intelligent person its transparently manipulative to do this kind of crap. If you want to see it elevated to its greatest art form check out Mondoweiss. which is an entire online toilet dedicated to this kind of sneaky hatefest..