Friday, May 16, 2008

What's Sauce For The Goose...

Christians win a Human Rights Complaint and, praise Jesus, prominent Christian bloggers warm to the HRC process.

21 comments:

Ti-Guy said...

There isn't much here. It wasn't a complaint under s.13 (as far as I can tell) and the details of the settlement have not been disclosed. But that's how the process is intended to work.

Anyway, it's put ol' SUZE into a logical quandry, so that's good too.

Pills, rubbers, abortions and thighs snapping shut all around!

SUZANNE said...

I'm not warm to the Human Rights Process.I think the process is still flawed.

And if it's true that no details are disclosed, I think that's another huge flaw.

Just because I like the result doesn't mean I like the process.

Reality Bites said...

Are we still talking about human rights or how Suzanne got pregnant?

And no, it's NOT a huge flaw. The process is designed for settling disputes, not having public trials. It's only when people absolutely refuse to consider obeying the law that they move onto hearings before a tribunal.

My God, but you're a moron.

Ti-Guy said...

Just because I like the result doesn't mean I like the process.

What it all means is that you're incoherent, SUZANNE.

And if it's true that no details are disclosed, I think that's another huge flaw.

Well, if you don't believe it's true, contact Lifesite and or another authority and find out. And if you don't like that...just what planet do you think you're living on? Details of setllements are routinely kept private. Since you have no standing in the case, it's really none of your business. Like RB said, it's a dispute settlement mechanism, not CourtTV for your personal entertainment.

Picking and choosing the pieces of reality you like and disregarding those you don't is a sign of irrationality, you know. You should really look into that, before you start having any more kids.

Narrow Back said...

ti-guy:
Picking and choosing the pieces of reality you like and disregarding those you don't is a sign of irrationality, you know. You should really look into that, before you start having any more kids.

Look who's talking. Hypocrite.

Ti-Guy said...
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Ti-Guy said...

Who the fuck are you?

Christ the last thing I need is another rightwing troll/CUNT on my back.

Fuck off.

The Rat said...

"Just because I like the result doesn't mean I like the process."

What it all means is that you're incoherent, SUZANNE.
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So sayeth the ti-guy, speaker of 5 languages, holder of a Masters degree. Thus we know that ti-guy believes ends justify means. We can now add to ti-guy's "support" list (because he wouldn't want to be "incoherent") the Nazi use of concentration camp prisoners to test the effects of hypothermia saving thousands of lives in the post-war years. Ends meet means, good end, justified means, right? Right?

Should I go on, tg, or do you wish to rephrase that turd of a post?

Narrow Back said...

Blogger Ti-Guy said...

Who the fuck are you?

Christ the last thing I need is another rightwing troll/CUNT on my back.

Fuck off.


Why the vaginaphobia? What are you going to call me next, a breast?

Ti-Guy said...

Ends meet means, good end, justified means, right? Right?

What are you on about, you psychotic? I'm sure I've never said anything much about the ends justifying the means because I never support that rationalisation in matters of significant importance. Both means and ends have to be guided by some sort of morality and ethics or at least, some commonly-accepted utility, or they cannot be supported and usually have unintended consequences. If you consider yourself a moral or ethical person, ends justifying means is incoherent. I'm sure SUZANNE wants to think of herself as a moral person (which she is decidely not, since she's profoundly dishonest, but anyway...), so what other conclusion should we come to?

The whole anti-choice campaign is rotten with incoherence from top to bottom. It's why people such as myself (who's against abortion) won't support them; who has in fact gone from thinking they are simply a group entitled to its position on an issue of public policy to believing they're an actual danger to our society.

Paul S said...

The objections towards HRCs remain BCL.

ti-guy refers to "process". But when "process" denies transparency, legitimacy and presumption of innocence, things must change.

The Rat said...

Ooooh, I see. Your morality is good and anyone you disagree with, their's is bad. Hence, your morality can justify the means and ends. Where Suzanne's morality, like believing in freedom of speech and expression, is so obviously wrong, when she likes an end but doesn't think the means are justified she is "incoherent". I get it.

Will you be available at all times to vet the morality of us mere mortals and help us avoid "incoherent" positions? Please, please professor ti-guy?

Paul S said...

= So sayeth the ti-guy, speaker of 5 languages =

English and 4 Star Trek languages?

SUZANNE said...

The process is designed for settling disputes, not having public trials.

Except that it has the power to levy fines and assign guilt and essentially determine how the law applies. This determination is made by people who don't necessarily have a background in the law. Without rules of procedure.

My God, but you're a moron.

You're a supposed progressive speaking of my sexuality and how I got "pregnant" and I'm the moron?

I guess it's okay to attack a person's sexual behaviour when "progressives" do it.

Ti-Guy said...

Ooooh, I see. Your morality is good and anyone you disagree with, their's is bad. Hence, your morality can justify the means and ends. Where Suzanne's morality, like believing in freedom of speech and expression, is so obviously wrong, when she likes an end but doesn't think the means are justified she is "incoherent". I get it.

Huh? This wasn't even a freedom of speech case. SUZANNE herself said it was a religious belief issue, which SHE considered wrong-headed, but doesn't care because SHE liked the outcome.

Will you be available at all times to vet the morality of us mere mortals and help us avoid "incoherent" positions? Please, please professor ti-guy?

Absolutely. I am nothing if not indulgent.

Ti-Guy said...

You're a supposed progressive speaking of my sexuality and how I got "pregnant" and I'm the moron?

This from someone whose nose is planted firmly in other women's (and girls') vaginas, 23-hours a day (and up against the frenum of gay men the other hour).

Not much about lesbians though. Hmmm....

Narrow Back said...

Blogger Ti-Guy said...

You're a supposed progressive speaking of my sexuality and how I got "pregnant" and I'm the moron?

This from someone whose nose is planted firmly in other women's (and girls') vaginas, 23-hours a day (and up against the frenum of gay men the other hour).

Not much about lesbians though. Hmmm....


Not since Oscar Wilde...

Ti-Guy said...

Don't try so hard, dear.

Narrow Back said...

Blogger Ti-Guy said...

Don't try so hard, dear.


Yeah, I went nuts.

bigcitylib said...

Lay off on Suz, TG.

Ti-Guy said...

Boo!