Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Banned From Free Dominon!

Visited you know where this morning and received the following message:

You have been banned from this forum.Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information.

And yet "wild" Bill Whatcott, with his pictures of anal warts and decapitated teenagers, is still considered "family friendly" enough for Free Dominion.

The CHRC complaint will of course be settled on its legal merits, but it hardly makes FDs broader case that their "voice" ought to be cherished in the name of political diversity when they are so thin-skinned that they can't handle one lonely Liberal venturing onto their site and confronting them single-handed. Or is the move even more calculated than that? Are they afraid of having someone examine the site and report on its activities who is not (like Michael Coren) associated with the fringier elements of talk radio?

Do they want the story out in the mainstream, or will they cower in the shadows?

Update: The Story makes the Washington Times. Surprisingly non-committal given the media outlet. Gosh, maybe we'll get some U.S. pundits involved and I can debate Rush himself (or at least his less-famous brother David).

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

wanked again eh ?

poor boy, kinda feel sorry for you. Not.

Ti-Guy said...

This is why you won't see me bending over backwards to defend FD, especially when progressives, much to the annoyance of...well *me* in any case...tolerate all kinds of wingnut buffoonery long after its stopped being illustrative of anything at all.

For God's sakes, in the name of all that is holy and sacred to the family, shut down FD!

Reality Bites said...

"not"?

Are the 80s back?

Reality Bites said...

ti-guy, I wouldn't expect any man to bend over around Bill Whatcott. You might get anal warts.

Mike said...

So they banned one of the lefties that actually supported FD right of free speech?

These people are idiots.

Reality Bites said...

They've banned far more conservatives than liberals in their day.

You have to understand, these are the people who were outraged that Larry Spenser was booted out of the Conservative party for suggesting homosexuals should be jailed.

They're not Conservatives, and certainly not principled. They're hard-core bigots who briefly thought they found a home with the soft-core bigots running the CPC.

jj said...

Bahahahahaha!!! Consider it a badge of honour, BCL.

"And yet "wild" Bill Whatcott, with his pictures of anal warts and decapitated teenagers, is still considered "family friendly" enough for Free Dominion." don't forget the prolapsed rectum, that was my favourite. Gawd, I almost puked.

The Mound of Sound said...

BCL - I went to the FD website and found the predictable. Why waste your energy on those clowns?

Anonymous said...

It's Liberals like Warren Kinsella and T-Guy who want to censor the internet. I just wanted to point that out.

Thank God we have brave conservative women like Kathy Shaidle and Kate McMillan who sacrifice so courageously so that Liberal censors like Kinsella and T-Guy are free to show the world what hateful little shits they are.

Psychols said...

Michelle at Rabble defended FD's bans by arguing that it was necessary to ensure that the site maintains its social conservative character. She (Michelle) argued that too many lefties might change the nature of the FD site.

It is disingenous for Connie to claim that SD tolerates a variety of opinions. She should be more like Michelle and openly admit that she bans people with opinions that don't fit a narrow range of viewpoints. The claim that all are welcome if they remain civil doesn't convince anybody who has seen FD at work.

Red Tory said...

Brave conservative women…? Don’t you mean hateful, bigoted termagants?

Ti-Guy said...

It's Liberals like Warren Kinsella and T-Guy who want to censor the internet. I just wanted to point that out.

Not only do I want to censor teh Internets, I want to censor Warren Kinsella.

I believe you just defamed Kinsella, anonymous. Not a good idea...I hear he's litigious...

Dave said...

Hmmm... this is an unfortunate turn of events. I thought you were being remarkably fair in your commentary on FD's current difficulties.

Red Tory: Don't you think you should use shorter words... for the sake of Herr Anonymous. :)

Anonymous said...

hey . . how about your home boy Steffi calling Chinese Canadians "dogs" . . then gives them French lessons and then lies about Canadian history.

He's all yours

http://stevejanke.com/archives/234596.php

Anonymous said...

rabble is the one that needs to expire. It's already brain-dead.

Anonymous said...

So, you're one of those who wants to restrict free speech to only those with viewpoints like yours, as a way to show your tolerance?

Jeff said...

BCL:

I too have been banned from a blog. Mr. Cherniak banned me after I challenged him or any other liberal to a fact-based debate on the Liberal enviornment record. And I didn't even call anybody any names. So I feel your pain.

BTW....Why did Dion lie about the first chinese MP? Or does he not know Canadian history? Mr. Dion said he could not lie, it was not in him. So....was he lying about lying? Just asking....

Ti-Guy said...

That isn't "crazy ol' Jeff" who calls people at home, is it?

bigcitylib said...

Jeff,

you can read my response to Janke's "analysis" of the whole first Chinese Canadian MP thing at his website. Frankly, that's probably the most trivial thing Janke has written since the whole "lets send a urologist to Africa" post.

Reality Bites said...

You know, anonymous, if you have a problem with the laws of this country your time would be better spent in trying to get them changed.

Of course that's a pretty hard task. Not a lot of votes to be won by championing the free speech rights of the bigoted scum that infest FreeDominion.

Jeff said...

Sorry Ti-guy - not that fella. Just a middle of the road voter who searches for the truth. Can you help...Was Dion lying about lying? No one wants to answer.

jeff said...

Sorry BCL, but Dion made a big deal about him not being able to lie. He lied. Please defend.....

I will read your post and hope for some answers.

Attacking Steve for reporting this was expected but I know that you are better than "This was a stupid post." If Mr. Dion wants to be PM, why not tell the truth and then he can take the high road against the cons. Now he is just a lying politician. Sorry but he did it to himself.

Ti-Guy said...

Sorry Ti-guy - not that fella. Just a middle of the road voter who searches for the truth. Can you help..

Now look who's lying. Glass houses, "Jeff," glass houses...

Holly Stick said...

jeff, why don't you start a blog of your own? Then you can control what people can talk about there.

So BCL, did you try contacting the webmaster or the board administrator as the notice said? They might ignore you, but FDers seem to find it impossible to shut up, even in self-defense. I suppose they can't afford to pay their lawyers to read FD and advise them that they are digging themselves deeper with every post. Or else they accuse the lawyers of being just like global warming alarmists and ignore their advice.

Jeff said...

Glass houses? I never said i couldn't lie. Dion did. Is that the answer....Glass houses? Wow what a defense....Gotta remember that.

bigcitylib said...

Jeff,

I suspect Dion was referring to the first Chinese Lib MP. Speaking to a room full of Liberals, why would anyone care about what some Conservative guy did somewhere?

Jeff said...

You're right, BCL. I was trying to stir up trouble with my smear-mongering. I'm pathetic, I know.

Jeff said...

Holly,

Didn't say anything about control. I enjoy blogs and visit both sides. I just want someone to defend Mr. Dion and his speech the other night.

So far lets look at the answers:
1. Glass houses....
2. start your own blog...

Powerful arguments. Hard to fire back at....

bigcitylib said...

Holly, I haven't been able to locate the webmasters email on the one page I am allowed to see. I will probably try again this evening.

Jeff said...

BCL,

The smear post is not mine, but I'm glad I've got a fan! Ti-guy, I'm not that Jeff. I would be more than willing to provide BCL with my personal info. I'm just trying to find answers. Mr. Dion could have said he was talking about the first Liberal Chinese MP but he didn't. Please explain.

Ti-Guy said...

I'm just trying to find answers.

No you're not. God, stop lying...

bigcitylib said...

Don't know, Jeff. He might have assumed the room would know. There are probably many things he could have said about Mr. Lee, but did not.

You think it will swing the next election?

Jeff said...

BCl,

I just think it calls into question his credibility. Will it swing the election, probably not. It does give the cons a chink in the armour though. Not very smart politicing(sp). The cons seem to have done a good job branding Dion. They will just put this in their tool belt and pull it out when necessary. Now Dion will have a tough time using the "I can't lie" line. Just looks to me like he has hurt himself.

BTW - Not sure who Ti-guy thinks I am. Somebody he definitely is not a fan of. Sorry Ti - wrong dude.

Ti-Guy said...

Is he done yet?

Reality Bites said...

BCL I think it's connie@freedominion.ca

Jeff said...

Sorry Ti - Am I done what? Asking questions you do not seem to want to answer? I thought this was a place to talk politics - civilly. Guess I was wrong.

Thanks, BCL. Appreciate the opportunity to discuss. I don't always agree but sometimes its fun.

Have to go now. Ti-guy is getting upset. Don't want that to happen to Mr. Glass Houses.

Ti-Guy said...

Is he done...now?

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

Liberal censorship: Symptom or cure?

Observer said...

The FDers are not "Conservatives" as you so casually label them.

Yes they have wormed their way into the new Conservative party, but they certainly do not represent them nationally. In fact, Harper cut them off when they tried to introduce their one issue existence; banning abortion as Conservative policy.

Connie herself attacks Harper, while disingenuously proclaiming that she supports him as leader. The only thing at FD is their Principled Hatred.

As we all know, democracy has it's weaknesses .. such as the "extremist element" within the Liberal party to which Dion is beholden.

Jeff said...

Symptom - oh sorry I was supposed leave wasn't I.

The Internet has helped cowards hide behind their on-line personas and say whatever they want - whether it be lies, the truth, racist, disrespectful....

I guess the question is....Does the Internet and blogs specifically add to sensible debates about important issues or does it allow racists, bigots, fiction writers and other cowards to spew their hatred?

Over the last year or so, unfortunately I think it is the latter.

Anonymous said...

Sorry that the so-called Freedom Fighters at FD simply cannot abide any free speech from you, BCL. I've been reading the site since the brouhaha broke out and this is what I've gleaned so far: the first page breathlessly avers that FD has been waiting for 6 years for someone to find something FD says or supports so odious that a Hate Speech charge against FD is launched. The day finally comes, and what do we get? The host complaining that the HR accusation is causing him psychological problems... Must be simply nerve-wracking to pick fights then find you've got nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

Real tough guys and gals over there, and riveting convos. Failed or phony military types, white-haired old ladies who insist on being auburn and talk about it, and some cross-eyed woman with a porcine nose claiming to be a SOW roper. There's more I could mention but I won't.

They're not worth your while, BCL. Let them fight their own battles.

L. emersonia

bigcitylib said...

Well, I cleared files on my browser and now I can see the FD page again, although I can't post. Still haven't emailed Connie. This is good in that I can still scan the threads. Someone asked why I read this kind of stuff, and its mostly because you get news on the Right Side of the Political spectrum off of it that you can't find anywhere else(and of course plenty of material to mock).

Ti-Guy said...

That Moonie Times article is hilarious:

"I cannot help but think that this is a politically motivated attack on our members' free speech; the commission is behaving like Voldemort's Death Eaters in the new Harry Potter book,” said forum co-founder Connie Wilkins."

"Whatever your political persuasion, you can't possibly condone this attack on free expression by an unaccountable, unelected bureaucracy,” wrote Kathy Shaidle of Toronto, who denounced the complaint as a “secular fatwa” on her widely read Relapsed Catholic blog."

Voldermort's Death Eaters! Secular Fatwas! Widely-read catholic blogs authored by racist, attention-seeking failed writers!!

bigcitylib said...

They picked that up from a caller to the Coren show who had just finished reading the book.

Ti-Guy said...

You mean, Connie didn't credit anyone for that brilliant bon mot?

Gosh, the depravity never ends.

Holly Stick said...

"The host complaining that the HR accusation is causing him psychological problems" not to mention the agony of anticipating an HR accusation for the past 6 years. That explains a lot.

And what about orcs, eh? And Darth Vader?

Anonymous Guy #2 said...

T-Guy, when I take valuable time out of my work day to obviously bait you into sayin the "c" word, I DEMAND that you react as instructed. Is that clear?

BCL: Connie bans people who support Stephen Harper so you're in good company :-)

Anonymous said...

World Net Daily picked it up.


Bene D

Frank Frink said...

Whatcott is an ex-homosexual prostitute!!!??!!

I did not know that. Gives the whole affair an even stranger twist. He's one very mixed-up puppy.

Anonymous said...

Frank Frink said...

Whatcott is an ex-homosexual prostitute!!!??!!

Weird, eh? Good thing his "new friends" didn't get ahold of him when he was active...

I doubt he's changed his stripes. Like those elected people who win their electorates over with diatribes against sin, and sex, and "so'domites" only to be found out later to have really weird fetish time with prostitutes, or mistresses nothing they say can be trusted. Watch what they actually DO.
I think Jesus even warned the people about this sort of perfidy inflicted on the innocents.


L. emersonia