So, instead acknowledging the flop of his big gesture, Nazi boy Mark Lemire has concocted an elaborate tale about CHRC employees hacking the wifi of our innocent Ottawa condo dweller. To show off his techy creds, he even did a MapQuest search.
A quick mapquest shows that from the CHRC offices to *****'s house is about a block or more. An EASY distance for a wireless signal to travel. Especially over an open field.
Well, yeah, the operative phrase here is "or more". Specifically, 0.73 miles or 3,854 feet. And across an open field, sure, but then through a block full of office towers and other miscellaneous hi-rise buildings.
I suppose its barely in the realm of possibility, if the condo building in question had one of those military style long-range wifi units that can BLASTT!!! its signal through surrounding buildings. But they're heavy and you'd need a black helicopter to fly them in. I don't think the boyz at Freedomsite or FreeD are ready for the "lets invoke black helicopters" ploy yet.
You know you're argument is in trouble when Flanders believes it. You can link to all the other stuff through him.
And the take away lesson here really oughtta be that you can't trust "research" conducted by Nazi compüder X-burts. And the folks learning the lesson should be Ezra, Connie, Mark, and everyone getting their balls sued off by Mark Warman over the infamous Anne Cools posting.
PS: Bit of a correction. As the crow flies, the distance between is about 1,100 - 1,200 feet, still pretty hefty for (in fact out of range of) your standard residential wifi network, and still through a number of buildings.
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The unnamed individual's surname is an old Ottawa Lebanese family name, known to be heavily sympathetic to the Liberal Party of Canada. The individual in question is female.
Yes, within the context of a commission that, statistically, convicts nearly exclusively white males, that is relevant.
I'd be surprised if there is a single Lebanese woman in Ottawa that doesn't support the Liberal Party of Canada or maybe the NDP, and polling numbers bear that out.
Had Marc Lemire "mistakenly" pinched the wifi connection of "Hans Von Erich", would we not ask similar questions?
Source:
http://www.lebaneseinottawa.com/
Ay-yi-yi.
At some point, I hope we can abstract the discussion up one level to speculate as to whether these people, when faced with a reality, simply invent another, are just conspiratorial or indeed, psychopathic.
There has not been nearly enough discussion of psychopathy as an influence in current conservatism.
As you read this and process that information in a different part of the brain than most people do, what are your thoughts on that, Fake?
"I'd be surprised if there is a single Lebanese woman in Ottawa that doesn't support the Liberal..."
More evidence of intellectual fraud.
I've seen regular Bluetooth wireless captured at a distance of 2 miles, but it requires specialized equipment, more than one person, clear line of sight and luck.
Wifi would be easier, but not much.
Seems like a lot of trouble to go through, when they could just walk to the Starbucks on Queen or the old "Roasted Cherry" on O'Connor, which offered free wifi with no special equipment at all.
No, Lemire and fakename are grasping at straws and conspiracy theories because the possibility that they are wrong is not something they are willing to consider. They hate Warman just that much.
I'm no fan of Warman or HRC either, but these guys are really grasping if this is their defense.
"Seems like a lot of trouble to go through, when they could just walk to the Starbucks on Queen or the old "Roasted Cherry" on O'Connor, which offered free wifi with no special equipment at all."
When I post racist messages anonymously, I prefer sports bars like Jack Astors.
fakename's definition of "relevant" does not match our definition here on planet earth.
Loved it . . . that's the way to use the your advantage and get those hate thinkers outted.
No transcript, push the clock, protest questions before they are asked, repeat "I don't remember" over and over.
That'll show the haters out there that the system is ours to abuse in the pursuit of what we believe people are thinking. Justice doesn't need due process, just lots of well paid government funded lawyers going after anyone we deem bad.
Long live the Canadian Human rights Commission - giving new and deeper meaning to "Kangaroo Court" and very proud of it.
I'm no fan of Warman or HRC either, but these guys are really grasping if this is their defense.
You have to have a kind of appreciation of this whole increasingly tedious drama...it has exposed a cabal of rather intractable liars and fabulists among Conservatives, and not all of them as socially repulsive as the neo nazis. Look who we've got entertaining the most ridiculous speculation in order to give it weight? Look at John Pacheco, condemning his eternal soul to Hell in such a public fashion. Astonishing.
...by the way, the actual Flanders is really too nice a person to have his name associated with that Catholic Opus Dei fascist.
Long live the Canadian Human rights Commission - giving new and deeper meaning to "Kangaroo Court" and very proud of it.
Pipe down and get back to work You're getting behind on your outgoing.
When I post racist messages anonymously, I prefer sports bars like Jack Astors.
I've noticed in the last few months since getting my IPod Touch (with WiFi) that people are securing their networks, finally.
Must be a drag for Conservatives when they're jonesing for Hentai while waiting for the wife and kids at the mall.
I have enough trouble getting a wi-fi signal on the other side of a concrete wall only 10 feet away.
1200 feet? Only with line of site and very little signal interference. Add in a few baby monitors, cordless phones, and any other wi-fi routers and POOF, there goes your signal.
The mystery individual I now learn is a Bell Employee.
CHRC HQ is at\adjacent Place Bell, where hundreds of Bell employees work. I would not be surprised if the nature of the relationship between Bell and both the CHRC and the police is explored a little further next hearing.
Rhetorical pop quiz: who owns BCE, what are their data retention policies, and which teacher's pension is about to buy BCE? Bonus: which country did Stephen Harper recently sign a security partnership agreement with, which is germane to the discussion? If Lemire thinks the Kanada Keystone Kops are bad...
Within the context of free speech are we comfortable with a bunch of petulant, militant friggin' unionized public employees owning Canada's communications backbone and several newspapers? Any Leaf fans have any feelings on this issue?
At this juncture, Fakename will be taking a break.
Just kidding. I know you're just lying.
BCL, is Fake posting from Delisle?
Some people recognized instantly that the perverted, sick likes of Robin Sharpe should not be prosecuted because he wrote vile, disgusting stories of pedophilia for his own enjoyment. This was protected under our Charter as Freedom of Expression. I don't recall any judge saying "Freedom of Speech is an American concept, and has no bearing in Canada", do you? So where do you stand, bcl? Are you holding the torch and the noose for those who say things you don't agree with?
"Just kidding. I know you're just lying."
It's OK, I realize you've never seen the rigorous scientific process unfold before your eyes, and it looks like black magic to you.
Ahem. BCE is throttling P2P traffic on third party carriers i.e. other ISPs that lease their infrastructure. Still "groovy" with them? I am *so* telling Michael Geist on *all* of you.
What saved Robin Sharpe was that there was no evidence that anyone other than himself had ever seen the horrid stories he wrote. Likewise, if people like Lemire had the good judgment to not actually stridently promote their hate, the CHRC wouldn't be prosecuting them.
It's OK, I realize you've never seen the rigorous scientific process unfold before your eyes, and it looks like black magic to you.
Actually, these conjurations of yours resemble Hoodoo more than black magic per se.
I only have so much time and energy for BCL's liar-trolls, so can you step it up a bit or do something amusing?
J. Kay from Natty Post has swallowed this theory hook line and sinker, but the page keeps crashing my browser. Can someone visit his blog and post the URL here or email me.
Taken in context " It's an American concept" is correct.
If I recall the context it went sorta like this-
" The State can't limit my freedom of speech"
"That's an American concept"
That's correct. In the US the 1st amendment sez " Congress shall make no law..." In Canada the state can make a law - provided it meets with the requirements of s. 1 of the Charter.
As for transcripts- Levant obviously hasn't been in a real court for some time. Court reporters are mostly obsolete there since everything is digitally recorded.
The problem- and I'm sure this is why Levant is confused- is in the old days if you wanted something struck from the record the reporter would just backspace and delete. But today you can't just rewind and record over the audio ( for a number of reasons that aren't relevant here). That's the difficulty the chair was talking about when asked to remove her name.
You can, just like in the days of old, ask for a transcript and a court reporter will be happy to transcribe one for about 1.98 per page.
He may also have been confused when the chair refused to order transcripts. That doesn't mean transcripts aren't available it just means you have to pay for them.
We always try to get a judge to order a transcript because if the court orders it the state picks up the tab. If the judge doesn't order it we have to pay for our own copy.
And .pdfs of these will surely appear on the CHRC website, no?
"Hoodoo"
As if you've ever seen one of these, Never Been West Of Kenora.
Heh, first time out west I see one and go "Hey, a Hoodoo Guru!". Dude goes "Dude, that's a band". All part of my pan-Canadianism.
"And .pdfs of these will surely appear on the CHRC website, no?"
Franchement, là.
First, that would violate GoC Common Look and Feel Guidelines, second, it would violate W3 Accessibility standards, third, given what we've learned about the CHRC, is it really a reasonable assumption that they will get right on that and post PDFs, when a culture of fucktardedness and secrecy clearly exists?
Whoa, fakename, its like you must be some kind of document specialist. Speech English for us Plebes, okay?
Anyway, all the earlier transcripts have become available. Why not these?
"Anyway, all the earlier transcripts have become available. Why not these?"
Have they? I shall cheerfully withdraw my remarks if I can be provided a link to a *relevant* PDF or two from the CHRC site that can be shown to have been posted in a timely manner.
Not sure what the policy is re .pdfs but I doubt it since the chair didn't order them ( reading between the lines - he felt there was absolutely nothing of relevance that came up that day )
Getting hard copies of transcripts is actually very rare. ( except for appeals - where they're always required) In my 15 yrs before the court I've maybe asked/ or the court has ordered maybe a dozen or so.
About the only reason you need them is:
1. Poor note taking ( court usually won't order them and you have to pay costs)
2. There will be a lengthy adjournment between sittings and they're required to refresh memory (court usually will order)
3. A discrepancy arises about what was said earlier by the witness or another witness (court will usually order)
This type of situation is precisely why I refuse to have a wireless internet network in my company. Our IT guys have sworn up and down that there are ways in which to secure the access to the system. I'm skeptical.
Given that our work is mostly extremely sensitive due diligence enquiries concerning securities issues and merger & acquisition matter, the "leak" of such information could be catastrophic.
Bruce
I think the Human rights commission puts up actual determinations rather than just transcripts.
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