Although the Anywhere But Copenhagen thing is quite clever, and the results have been most entertaining.
Tuesday, December 08, 2009
NDP Calls For Mackay's Resignation
And I don't know why the Libs aren't doing more of this kind of shit--agitating, opposing, and etc. You can't win if you don't play. What is it? Beneath the party's dignity to kick out once in awhile? It isn't like nobody's thought of the idea. But Noooo! And therefore any of the glory that might result (in the way of headlines: its not like MacKay would actually step down) will accrue to the NDP.
Although the Anywhere But Copenhagen thing is quite clever, and the results have been most entertaining.
Although the Anywhere But Copenhagen thing is quite clever, and the results have been most entertaining.
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IT is easy to say for Mackay to resign, but remember, Harper was controlling him.He did not do or say anything without the blessings of Harper
Perhaps Harper will fire MacKay in order to save his own cowardly ass. After all, he's willing to smear the troops, as are MacKay and Baird.
Unfortunately there have been too many frivolous calls for the resignation of a minister over the years, and this is true of all political parties. Harper & the CPC used to do it over some pretty stupid stuff back when Martin was PM in case people forgot. In some cases they were legitimate (Bernier leaving top secret NATO docs at his girlfriends place), but in most cases not so much (the NDP once asked for Tony Clement’s resignation over remarks he made about Sudbury).
Perhaps the grits have gotten fatigued with all these trivial resignation calls, and now can’t see a real when it slaps them in the face?
Oops, that last sentence should read:
"Perhaps the grits have gotten fatigued with all these trivial resignation calls, and now can’t see a real one when it slaps them in the face?"
Even though I'm a card-carryin' GPC voter, I've had a soft spot for the Grits. Under Ignatieff, however, the Liberals have become less liberal and it's been tougher and tougher for me to consider the LPC as my second choice.
If the Libs don't grow a pair and echo the call for MacKay's resignation, the party may as well merge with the CPC. There has been no more serious break from liberalism than the condoning of torture. Iggy's got some baggage and he's not doing himself any favours by holding back.
Heads need to roll. MacKay needs to be ousted not just from cabinet but from Parliament. He has breached the trust of Canadians. Lies to Parliament and to the public cannot go unpunished.
MacKay out now. Harper next.
Plus the party led by a neo-con who has defended and even embraced torture ultimately has little moral standing in this debate. Sorry Libs, you are stuck with Iggy's record on this subject.
"When democracies fight terrorism, they are defending the proposition that their political life should be free of violence. But defeating terror requires violence. It may also require coercion, deception, secrecy, and violation of rights.
Michael Ignatieff, 2004
"But having said everything that I can say about this, and I say how much I loathe the use of torture, the best we can assert is that torture is less efficient than is often portrayed; but in a situation of extreme necessity, the possibility, even a slight possibility, that it may reveal some life saving result would almost certainly overwhelm any consideration that it is evil." Michael Ignatieff, 2003
"Nonetheless - and this is critical to the argument that was to develop - he does go so far as to suggest forms of duress that might be permissible. These include "forms of sleep deprivation that do not result in harm to mental or physical health, and disinformation that causes stress."
Wanna bet Afghan authorities pulling out fingernails and beating people with electrical cables justify their barbarity with almost exactly the same weasely words?
NDP were just grandstanding, period.
The NDP ask for resigations every other week it seems.
Amazing, no matter what is discussed, it ends up an Iggy attack.
Yawn
Sorry the subject of your party's leader bores you Sandi - how do you think the rest of us feel?
; )
I thought the subject was MacKay.
Then, I wondered who in hell could replace him. Harper's run out of people. If the current cabinet are his best, good grief.
I'm glad Cliff's doing what he's doing. Reminds me of why I never vote NDP.
They just don't play well with others.
You "don't know why the Libs aren't doing more of this kind of shit--agitating, opposing and etc"...... "What is it? Beneath the party's dignity to kick out once in a while?"
You cannot be serious.
Please go to www.liberal.ca and see a litany of such agitation and opposition on myriad topics this year.
The LPOC blew through it's quota of outrage earlier this year on many many topics. None of it resonated with the electorate.
"Apparently, that works for Canadians."
Only for those Canadians with an IQ of 70 or less ...which are already in Harper's camp.
Come on Iggy and co:
Face down Harper and DEMAND McKay's resignation!!!!
Harper will tremble under such an onslaught!
Wow, such a bold move will certainly be the tipping point.
Only for those Canadians with an IQ of 70 or less ...which are already in Harper's camp.
I disagree. Starting in 2006, commenters like Andrew Coyne and Paul Wells (who, we assume, have, IQ's of at least 100...but not much more) were gushing about the new robust tone the Conservatives were bringing to Canada's dull and overly-polite political and public discourse.
It works with a large segment of our media elite, as well. Except when they're on the receiving end of it, of course. Then they get petulant and peevish.
And the hits just keep on coming.
General changes story
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