Showing posts with label David Orchard. Show all posts
Showing posts with label David Orchard. Show all posts

Saturday, May 14, 2011

On "Opening Up" The Liberal Leadership Process

Steve V has a nice post up on how the LPoC might "open up" its leadership selection process.  He's expanding on earlier columns by Silver and Ibbitson where such "radical" proposals as an open primary for the national leadership, or at least for choosing candidates at the riding level, are discussed.

All these authors argue, essentially: what does the LPoC have to lose?

Well, while all these people at least acknowledge the possibility of a "take-over" of the party by hostile ideological interests, nobody spends much time over it.  Therefore it might be worth noting that in 1998 the Progressive Conservative national  leadership race was indeed targeted by interlopers, who were able to exert a measurable effect upon the outcome. 

Two things happened that year.  Firstly, the PCs opened up their own leadership selection process: $10 and anyone could join the party and cast a ballot for leader.  Secondly, David Orchard decided that he was going  to become a Tory and run in that leadership race.

A couple months in advance of the October vote, emails started going around a number of leftish mailing lists suggesting that people prank the PCs by signing up and backing Orchard.  The point was to throw sand in the gears of the PC machine: if no candidate received 50 per cent plus one of the vote, the whole race would go to an expensive second round, to be held weeks later.  Its hard to tell with these things, but I suspect several hundreds of people joined up for just this purpose.  Several thousands promised to, and since the price to get involved was just two fivers and a walk to your local highschool (I don't think e-voting had been invented yet), I suspect many followed through.  I certainly did.

So here is the October 1998 vote result.  Joe Clark missed the victory mark (but read though the link--this is in points not absolute votes) by less than two percent.  Hey presto, an attempt to "open" a major Canadian political party had been successfully hijacked.

But was the attempt a failure

Hard to say, really.  Orchard himself was sincere enough.  He brought a new crowd into the party with him, and some of those stuck around at least up to its final dissolution.  Orchard himself fought for the PCs existence right to the last stand.  As for the pranksters?  Well, in my own case I continued to read the PC Lit that  I was sent quite dutifully. I might have voted for them one day, as I had voted for the Clark PCs in his first go-round as leader. 

Anyway, before going towards anything as unknown as an open primary, the LPoC might want to look at this old PC model.  Perhaps set the party membership price a little higher to scare off mischief-makers.  Also, the concept of counting "points" over raw votes might be useful.  As far as I can tell, it is meant to insure that ridings with very few party members can still influence the final decision, and so people in those areas have a reason to join up in the first place.  I remember someone (Jeff Jedras I think) telling me that if the LPoC went with a strictly 1 Member 1 vote system, none of the leadership candidates would bother to campaign outside of Toronto.

Sunday, April 11, 2010

The Green Party/Tory Connection

Several polls over the past few years (but none that I can find right now, sorry) have suggested that a fair percentage of Torys would make the Green Party their second voting choice after the CPoC or provincial counterpart. I've always wondered about the logic behind that choice.

Now, Ontario Green Party leader Mike Schreiner makes it all make sense:

Schreiner says even though Simcoe Grey has pretty much always been blue, 11.4 percent of the vote in 2007 in the riding was for the Greens.

He tells us many people in the riding have been receptive to the Green Party's pledge to support small businesses and family farmers as well as promote local food.


Indeed, Schriener's creds as an entrepreneur all involve bringing Ontario farm products from their rural producers to urban consumers. A little bit blue, a little bit green. Reminds me a bit of David Orchard who, if you will remember, wound up an LPoC member towards the end of his political career.

...which is to say that there's nothing in Mr. Schreiner's shtick that couldn't be co-opted by a federal or provincial Liberal party. Hint hint.

Thursday, August 07, 2008

Curran On Orchard

I shouldn't have to tell you how I stand on the matter but, just in case you forgot, I am all for David Orchard becoming the Liberal Party Candidate for DMCR. I've explained my reasons over and over again, but the main reason is that the Liberal Party has to do something different in the prairies and I believe David will act as a catalyst in that regard.

I 2nd these sentiments.

People look at Orchard and see, politically, a weird cat. But maybe not so much. If you wanted to "slot" him politically, who would you compare him too? My first thought is Elizabeth May: progressive on Enviro issues, conservative on various social ones. In the West that may be a useful combo, because remember that a fair portion of the Conservative vote picks Green as their next choice.

In any case, the Libs could use a few more staunch enviro warriers on the Prairies.


And, certainly, they have been more than able to work with Ms. May on occasion.